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Who is correct? Grok Ai vs Martin Evening's LR 5 book re: LR compensates the shadow point for print

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Hi,

 

In Martin Evening's "photoshop lightroom 5 book" pg 219 it goes "LR and PS are able to automatically compensate the shadow point every time you send a file to the desktop printer or you convert an image to cmyk (im assuming it wont do this if you send a RGB photo to a lab printer?). LR's color management system always ensures that the blackest blacks you set in the basic panel faithfully print as black and preserve all the shadow detail". Now this book is from 2013 so I don't know if it applies to the current LR classic of today. 

 

I asked Grok Ai and it said LR doesnt do this -- so my question is does what martin said still apply to LR today? thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

최고의 답변: Ian Lyons

CMYK support was removed from Lightroom 2015.6 / 6.6

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Ian Lyons
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March 29, 2025

CMYK support was removed from Lightroom 2015.6 / 6.6

Hmmokthen작성자
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March 29, 2025

thanks for the info. Do you know whether LR and PS are able to automatically compensate the shadow point every time you send a file to the desktop printer?

Conrad_C
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March 31, 2025

I dont do much printing atm, so please forgive my lack of understanding — I have 2 choices in color management when printing to my home printer: #1 Custom profile >> Tells the printer how the colours are to come out and "Black Point Compensation will be used for this print" i.e. the system will ensure that there is details in my shadows. --is that correct?

 

#2 "Managed by Printer" -- a) it doesnt mention anything about black point compensation, but I assume it is still doing it? b) "remember to enable color management in the printer driver dialog box" --where is this, cant find it anywhere?

thanks


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#2 "Managed by Printer" -- a) it doesnt mention anything about black point compensation, but I assume it is still doing it?

By @Hmmokthen

 

Printer drivers tend to be a “black box” where advanced features such as black point compensation might be done automatically but not controllable and without options exposed to the user.

 

For desktop inkjet printers, I believe black point compensation is based on information stored in the media type or profile. For example, I use Epson photo inkjet printers, so if I have the printer manage the color, I think black point compensation will depend on whether I selected a media type of Plain Paper, Epson Enhanced Matte Paper, Epson Premium Luster Photo Paper, etc. in the Epson-specific printing options. The printer driver includes density and white point info for each of those papers, so it can adjust black point compensation for each of them, as long as I chose a media type that matches the paper I put in the printer.

 

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b) "remember to enable color management in the printer driver dialog box" --where is this, cant find it anywhere?

By @Hmmokthen

 

The example below is for Epson printers, where you choose the color management system in the Color Mode menu. On a Mac, that’s in the Print dialog box, Printer Options category, Printer Settings dialog box.

 

I don’t know how the options are arranged by Canon in their inkjet printer driver software, but hopefully this will point you in the right direction.

 

On macOS, Lightroom Classic and the Epson printer driver are properly coordinated so that if you choose a profile in the Lightroom Classic Print module, causing Lightroom Classic to manage the color conversion, when you go into the Color Mode menu, Off (No Color Management) is already set and can’t be enabled, as on the left in the picture below. On your Canon, you might have to manually disable color management, but again I’m sorry that I don’t know where that is or how it works in the Canon printer driver.

 

If you choose Managed by Printer in the Lightroom Classic print module, color handling is handed to the printer driver. On an Epson, as shown on the right in the picture below, this defaults to setting the Color Mode menu to Epson Standard (sRGB), which is often appropriate.