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P: Increase Supported File Dimensions

LEGEND ,
Oct 26, 2014 Oct 26, 2014

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I would appreciate if LR would support images with 65k x 65k pixels (i.e. drop the overall 512M-pixel limit). I have several stiched images, that I can not handle with Lightroom, and I do not want to use two different Applications to manage my images.

P.S. and please make the limit 2^16 x 2^16 and not 65000x 56000.

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LEGEND ,
May 06, 2022 May 06, 2022

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"Still wishing for expansion of max file dimensions! Just tried to import a panaroma while restoring a library (SSD died!) and it won't restore because of the limitation!"

 

Please give the dimensions of the panorama and describe how it was created, so Adobe will understand better why you want larger maximums.

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Community Beginner ,
May 07, 2022 May 07, 2022

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Took a while to find it. I was restoring about 70,000 files when I got the message.

It is a tif file, 55765 x 15769, with a file size of 980MB. I see that the jpg version, which is 469MB, imported OK. To be honest, I created the pano 2 years ago and don't remember what I used, Photoshop maybe, since I only use a focus stacking program and a denoise ai outside of LR and PS.

I could probably live with this, but if the pano would have been a little larger, I would have had to use a degraded jpg image to get under the 512MB limit.

It looks like a previous member reported a 512MP limit, but I think it is a 512MB limit. Please correct me, if wrong.

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Community Beginner ,
May 07, 2022 May 07, 2022

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FYI, it is a pano of the complete view of the Milky Way, if interested 🙂

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LEGEND ,
May 07, 2022 May 07, 2022

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"It is a tif file, 55765 x 15769"

 

That's a total of 55,765 * 15,769 = 879,358,285 pixels, or 879 megapixels.  LR's maximum size is 512 MP, with no more than 65,000 pixels per side. See the very bottom of this help article:

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/help/supported-file-formats.html

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Community Beginner ,
May 08, 2022 May 08, 2022

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Sorry, I am missing something. First, I was wrong, the jpg did not import. I had created a "small" version that did get imported, but it was not the same resolution.

You are restating the limitation that the OP originally requested to be changed, which I agree with. I understand the limitation, that is why I said that I agree with others in this thread that it be increased. So, I am not sure of the point you are trying to make, sorry.

The good news is that it does open in Photoshop. The bad news is that it does not even create a placeholder in the LRC catalog so that I can remember it is on my disk (one of the reasons I use LRC to catalog all my photos). I'll rename the low resolution version something like "low_res_version full res is in same file folder-open it in PS.jpg".

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LEGEND ,
May 08, 2022 May 08, 2022

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"So, I am not sure of the point you are trying to make, sorry."

 

I was responding to your last sentence:

 

"It looks like a previous member reported a 512MP limit, but I think it is a 512MB limit. Please correct me, if wrong."

 

Thus I corrected you -- it's 512 megapixels (MP) not 512 megabytes (MB).

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Community Beginner ,
May 09, 2022 May 09, 2022

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Got it. You are right.

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 20, 2022 Jul 20, 2022

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I totally agree. Adobe Lightroom Classic is supposed to be a professionnal application. It should cater to the needs of professionnals event if they represent "only" a small percentage of users. Please, Adobe, lift that limit!

 

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LEGEND ,
Jul 20, 2022 Jul 20, 2022

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Please add your constructive opinion to this feature request:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/p-increase-supported-file-dimensions/idi-p/12...

 

and be sure to click the Upvote button at the top-right and Follow at the bottom of the first post. That will make it a little more likely that Adobe will consider implementing the feature and you'll be notified when they do.

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 20, 2022 Jul 20, 2022

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I agree with this. I normally do my panos in Lightroom. Sometimes, I do them in Photoshop. If Photoshop can do the stitching, then why can't Lightroom import it back ?

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Contributor ,
Sep 07, 2022 Sep 07, 2022

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As cameras are exceeding 400 megapixels per shot now I think it's time for Lightroom to start lifting limits accordingly. Lightroom's Photo Merge crashes on large files where Photoshop does not. Photo Merge limits appear to be much lower than Photoshop's so lifting these limits would really help and allow us to do more in Lightroom and less in Photoshop. Lightroom's 512 megapixel JPEG file size limit is particualrly frustrating to me and one that I'd love to see increased. Thank you!

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LEGEND ,
Sep 07, 2022 Sep 07, 2022

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Which cameras are exceeding 400 megapixels per shot.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 07, 2022 Sep 07, 2022

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The Hasselblad H6D-400c produces 400 MP images (about $50K).  

 

I think a somewhat more common use-case is a high-megapixel panorama generated from 50 - 100 MP input images.  

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LEGEND ,
Sep 07, 2022 Sep 07, 2022

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Bob: https://www.gadgetmatch.com/samsung-450-megapixel-camera-sensor-trademark/

There is no excuse for Lightroom Classic to cripple the full PSB support found in Photoshop. None IMHO. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"

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LEGEND ,
Sep 07, 2022 Sep 07, 2022

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@TheDigitalDog 

 

I agree LrC should support larger sizes.  I was just wondering what cameras did single shot this size.  400 megapixel is a LOT of overkill for my needs or wants. 

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Contributor ,
Sep 08, 2022 Sep 08, 2022

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If we use a singleshot/pixelshift convention, many camerass today are 50/150, 100/400, and 150/450 (lots of these in development). The FujiGFX100s is 100/400 and at $6000 is become increadibly popular. I've been using the GFX100 (more expensive varient) for several years and was involved when the Pixel Shift beta when that technology was first coming online. At the time my first thought was "good grief, that's a ridiculous amout of resolution I'm not sure I want" but once you use it, you want it. It's like switching to an 8x10 camera with fine grain film. There's so much more true photographic information and it's such a joy to zoom in and look around, and it's hard to decribe how this actually matters and translates into better prints even at realively small sizes like 11x14s. I'm using the GFX100 almost exclusively in an Art Documentation context working with museums and private collectors and the results are truely impressive and lift a lot of eyebrows. And when there's a long and skinny artwork that must be documentated in sections, we wind up with gigapixel images really quickly - and all the problems that go along with large files.

 

And that's my point. With an all-Adobe LR/PS workflow, working with combined images from modern ~400 megapixel cameras really has a lot of challenges I think Adobe could help us with.  These files don't work well in LR and many features fail or crash - like Photo Merge. "Unable to Merge the Photos. Please try a different projection option" LR says.  The same problems crop us when you use "Enhace Details" from ~100 megapixel fiels. Photoshop performs Photo Merge on these same files just fine but once we have a giant file our only option for saving it as a PSB (Large Document Format) that we can't take back into Lightroom. I'm always saving low res proxy files just to have as a reference in LR which is a pain. Our beloved Lightroom is crippled in so many ways. It can't even import downresed JPEGs saved in Photoshop near the pixel count limits. 

 

There are a number of other existing and proposed file formats for gigapixel imaging but Photoshop and Lightroom don't support any of them yet. Other apps and websites are supporting formats like SVS, NDPI, SCN, VMIC, ZIF, ISYNTAX MRXS, SZI.   Easyzoom.com is a website that allows us to view super high res files online quickly but getting our Photoshop files saved into a format for this website is a road block.  I'm sure Adobe will make a smart decision about what to support and possibily even propose a new open format that offers greater flexability for gigapixel imaging. I can't wait. Adobe, help us manage this transition into the age of gigapixel imaging! 

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Advocate ,
Sep 10, 2022 Sep 10, 2022

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@Scott_Martin_ 

 

You should definitely report those issues as bugs, possibly providing file samples.

 

 

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New Here ,
Mar 20, 2023 Mar 20, 2023

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Hi, so another couple of months gone by and still not arrived into the 21st century concerning size limits? 

Is it possible for Lightroom to fully take adavantage of Gigapixel panoramas, psb format, when???

 

 

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LEGEND ,
Mar 20, 2023 Mar 20, 2023

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"Is it possible for Lightroom to fully take adavantage of Gigapixel panoramas, psb format, when???"

 

Unfortunately, Adobe almost never indicates if or when they'll implement a new feature.

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New Here ,
Mar 23, 2023 Mar 23, 2023

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Yeah, too sad. 

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Explorer ,
Oct 03, 2023 Oct 03, 2023

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Adobe defintiely needs to increase the 500MP limit. Anyone shooting medium format digital and stitching will quickly run into that limit. LRC should handle the same size files PS does.

 

But I would take an interim compromise for PSBs larger than 500MP: allow us to import them into LRC but not Develop/Edit them. At the minimum, being able to store the big PSBs in my LRC database to print and edit in PS would be very, very helpful. Right now I have to save a flattened version down-sized with notes in the filename that tell me where the original giant PSB is.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 03, 2023 Oct 03, 2023

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"But I would take an interim compromise for PSBs larger than 500MP: allow us to import them into LRC but not Develop/Edit them. At the minimum, being able to store the big PSBs in my LRC database to print and edit in PS would be very, very helpful. Right now I have to save a flattened version down-sized with notes in the filename that tell me where the original giant PSB is."

 

You might consider the Any File plugin, which will automate this process for you, letting you more easily manage these PSBs within the LR catalog while editing in PS.

 

 

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Explorer ,
Oct 31, 2023 Oct 31, 2023

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Please allow LR to at least 'track' large PSB/TIFF files so that they can be previewed within Lightroom. I do large panos, and run up against this limitation a lot. I don't mind going to PS to edit them, but I'd at least like to be able to see them in Grid view, be able to zoom into them, and just as importantly be able to export them from LR (as smaller files for web, etc.), as otherwise I need to create a smaller (duplicate) file that LR can read to be able to visually keep track of them, which creates confusion regarding whether a given file is the original file or not. It's also odd that some PSB and larger TIFF files can be read by LR, and some cannot; I have not been able to figure out why this is.

 

Make limitations same as PS ; doing anything else seems arbitrary, especially the 'long dimension' limitation.

 

Stitched panoramas are getting quite popular, and I'd think that this will become mroe important to fix as time goes on.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 31, 2023 Oct 31, 2023

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Agreed that the limit should be greatly increased.

 

"otherwise I need to create a smaller (duplicate) file that LR can read to be able to visually keep track of them,"

 

The Any File plugin can automate this workflow, automatically creating proxy image and importing them into LR.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 31, 2023 Oct 31, 2023

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