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P: Need Native Support for WOS/CoPilot/ARM Devices

Community Beginner ,
Mar 14, 2023 Mar 14, 2023

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Need Support for WOS Devices (Windows on Snapdragon)

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Participant ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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A number of Windows laptops have been announced that are based on the new Snapdragon X Elite CPU. These look to be powerful machines. Is Adobe planning to optimise LR Classic (&/or Desktop) for these devices? 

Thanks. 

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Community Beginner ,
May 24, 2024 May 24, 2024

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With a slew of new laptops (including MS Surface Pro 11) being built on the ARM Snapdragon platform, does anyone know categorically whether it is possible to install and run Lightroom Classic on Window-on-ARM in emulation mode?

 

According to the system requirements (https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/system-requirements.html) it needs an Intel or AMD processor.

 

However, I've found this analysis (paid for by Microsoft) of the performance of the new Surface: https://signal65.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/NewSurfaceLaptop2024_Signal65LabInsights.pdf . On page 24, there is an assessment of the performance of LrC running in emulation mode on the Surface 11. That suggests that it is possible.

 

If this needs to be raised as a feature request, can anyone point me in the direction of how I should do that?

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Community Expert ,
May 24, 2024 May 24, 2024

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I don't have an answer to your question and doubt that other users will have either. That being said, I'm sure that it will shortly generate significant interest.

 

I've moved your post to the 'Ideas' forum.

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LEGEND ,
May 26, 2024 May 26, 2024

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Lightroom Classic (Intel) does run on Windows 11 (ARM).  I've run LRC (Intel) in a Windows 11 (ARM) virtual machine in a Parallels / Mac / Apple Silicon (ARM) host for over a year.  It's not super speedy (mainly because the Parallels / Mac host doesn't provide the Windows virtual machines with access to the GPU), but it's fast enough for me to thoroughly test my LR plugins on Windows and help answer questions here in the forums.

 

See here for details:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/can-t-install-classic-in-parallels-on-m...

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Community Beginner ,
May 31, 2024 May 31, 2024

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I received confirmation from Microsoft today that Lightroom Classic is already natively supported.

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Community Expert ,
May 31, 2024 May 31, 2024

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Isn't that an ARM based processor? I'm not sure that's true. Lightroom is, but not Lightroom Classic. It might run on emulation.

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Victoria - The Lightroom Queen - Author of the Lightroom Missing FAQ & Edit on the Go books.

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 01, 2024 Jun 01, 2024

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This is what a Microsoft service advisor told me, but obviously they are lying! I asked Copilot, and here is the answer: In summary, Lightroom Classic can run on the Snapdragon X Elite thanks to emulation, but we're still waiting for a native version for optimal performance. Adobe may optimize Lightroom Classic for these new devices in the future, but for now, emulation is a viable option2.

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Community Expert ,
Jun 01, 2024 Jun 01, 2024

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That sounds more like I'd expect. I believe Lightroom (non-Classic) and Photoshop are the only native at the moment. 

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Victoria - The Lightroom Queen - Author of the Lightroom Missing FAQ & Edit on the Go books.

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Jun 01, 2024 Jun 01, 2024

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Thanks @Grune and @Victoria Bampton LR Queen for clarifying the situation. My assumption is that they will address LR Classic in due course...

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New Here ,
Jun 18, 2024 Jun 18, 2024

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Or at least will work through the Prisma ?

 

 

Best regards.

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Community Expert ,
Jun 18, 2024 Jun 18, 2024

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This is a Community (i.e. User) forum. So, folk here aren't in the know any more than you are. That being said, I've provided a link below dated December 2022 where Adobe states their intentions re support for Windows Arm. Note the the comment re Lightroom (not Classic) and Photoshop.

 

https://helpx.adobe.com/uk/download-install/kb/arm-processors.html

 

A more recent article by Windows Central may also be informative

 

https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/adobe-native-support-for-windows-on-arm

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LEGEND ,
Jun 18, 2024 Jun 18, 2024

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@Carlos3096277347o3: "Or at least will work through the Prism"

 

I've been running LR Classic (Intel) on Windows 11 (ARM) (via a Mac Parallels virtual machine) for over a year.

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 19, 2024 Jun 19, 2024

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Input from people who have purchased a Microsoft Surface Pro 11th Edition suggests that it is not possible to install Lightroom Classic on the machine.

 

This is despite the fact that it is possible to install it under Parallels on a Mac (as per John Ellis' screenshots in the linked article).

 

The ARM compatibility page has been updated on 18 June 2024 (i.e., the day the Snapdragon X Surface models were released): https://helpx.adobe.com/download-install/kb/arm-processors.html 

 

The page does not mention Lightroom Classic anywhere - not as "does work on Co-pilot+ PCs", not under "when does Adobe plan to release other apps for Co-Pilot+ PCs" and also not under "which apps can run natively on Co-Pilot+ PCs".  It almost looks as if Adobe is ignoring Lightroom Classic.

 

What is the best way to influence Adobe to address this? 

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Community Expert ,
Jun 20, 2024 Jun 20, 2024

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Posts to this forum are reviewed by the Adobe Product teams on regular basis. 

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 23, 2024 Jun 23, 2024

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I have learnt on Reddit that some users are able to successfully install Lightroom Classic on a Surface Pro 11 (i.e., Windows on Arms) in emulation mode.

 

When I'm using Creative Cloud Desktop and logged into Adobe, I simply don't see Lightroom Classic as an option. He, on the other hand, does, together with a warning about that since he's on an ARM computer, it will be an Intel version that is downloaded for emulation.

 

This confuses me. We clearly see the same thing, despite us both using the same version of creative cloud.

 

I am in the UK. He is in the US. Might it be the case that Adobe is allowing download of LRC in one region but not in another?

 

If anyone reading this has either successfully installed LRC in emulation under Windows-on-ARM, or has tried but not succeded, would you mind sharing your location please?

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New Here ,
Jun 24, 2024 Jun 24, 2024

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When will Lightroom classic be available for Copilot+ PCs with Snapdragon X Series processors?

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Jun 24, 2024 Jun 24, 2024

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Adobe does not comment on future developments, so you won't get an answer here.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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Jun 24, 2024 Jun 24, 2024

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Jun 24, 2024 Jun 24, 2024

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Can I run LrC in emulated mode (Snapdragon X Elite)? How do I do that? What and where do I download a version that I can use? Greatful for any help.

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New Here ,
Jun 24, 2024 Jun 24, 2024

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Ok, thanks. 

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 25, 2024 Jun 25, 2024

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I spoke with Adobe support today, and the helpful agent gave me this response:

 

As of now from all the information I gathered, Lightroom classic is not available for ARM based machines. Currently LrC is available on winarm only in simulated mode in NA regions.

I'd advise you to please fil this Adobe Wish Form so that our team can review it and work on it accordingly.

https://www.adobe.com/products/wishform.html

 

So although the form appears to just pass you onto this very same forum, I would suggest that anyone outside North America who would like to run Lightroom Classic on an ARM based machine fills logs a request to remove the "if region = NA" from Adobe's logic for determining whether Lightroom Classic should be installable on Windows ARM via Creative Cloud.

 

The fact that there was a problem last year installing LR Classic (Intel) on Windows 11 (ARM), and Adobe acknowledged it and fixed the problem very quickly shows that it is a very small change to amend that if statement.

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Explorer ,
Jun 27, 2024 Jun 27, 2024

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It does install and run.

I had trouble sending pics to PS though.  It wouldn't, and just show me photoshop w/o my images.  Tried to uninstall and re-install both in opposite order and didn't help.  I know one is emulated and the other is not.. not sure if that has anything to do w/ it.  PS was not teh beta version.

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Participant ,
Jun 28, 2024 Jun 28, 2024

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@JuniorJr

 

Where are you located?  It would be useful if everyone who posts here identifies their region.

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