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April 30, 2025

P: Some AI Mask Overlays do not appear (Win)

  • April 30, 2025
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Product: Adobe Photoshop Lightroom (Desktop/Cloud-based version)

Version: 8.3

Operating System: Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, OS build 26100.3915

Date: April 30, 2025

Issue Description:

Since updating to Lightroom Desktop version 8.3, I am experiencing an inconsistent issue where mask overlays for certain AI-generated masks fail to display on some images. This makes visually confirming or refining these specific AI selections difficult or impossible when the issue occurs.

Specifically:

  • Mask overlays for Select Background and Select People appear to work correctly and consistently display their overlays.
  • Mask overlays for Select Subject, Select SkySelect Objects, and the new Landscape Masking features are intermittently invisible. The overlay simply fails to appear on certain images for these mask types, while potentially working correctly on others.
  • When the overlay is invisible for these specific AI masks, the mask itself is generated (adjustments affect the correct area), but the visual feedback (overlay) is missing.
  • Overlays for manually created masks (Brush, Linear Gradient, Radial Gradient) consistently display correctly as expected IF a new mask is created with these, but adding a Brush, Linear Gradient, Radial Gradient does not show the color overlay on masks created with the above problematic mask types.
  • This inconsistent behavior began immediately following the update to version 8.3. Functionality was normal and consistent in the prior version on this same system.
  • This issue is not related to standard overlay visibility settings being incorrect (details below).

 

System Information:

  • CPU: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12950HX
  • RAM: 64.0 GB
  • GPU: NVIDIA RTX A3000 12GB Laptop GPU
  • GPU Driver Version (Latest Tested): R570 U4 (573.06) (Clean installed & tested: April 29, 2025)
  • System Type: 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

 

Troubleshooting Steps Performed (Exhaustive - All Failed to Resolve the Intermittent Issue):

The following steps have been systematically performed. The intermittent invisibility of overlays for Subject, Sky, Object, and Landscape AI masks persists:

  1. Standard Overlay Settings Verified Correct:
    • Confirmed "Show Overlay" checkbox in the Masking panel is ON.
    • Cycled through all available Overlay Modes using Shift+O.
    • Confirmed the main Mask Opacity slider is set sufficiently high (e.g., >50%).
    • Explicitly checked the nested Overlay Opacity setting via the ... menu > Color Overlay Settings > Opacity slider; confirmed it is set well above 0%.
    • Toggled overlay visibility off/on using the O key.
  2. GPU Configuration & Driver Verification:
    • Toggled the Preferences > Performance > Use Graphics Processor setting through all states (Auto, Off, Custom/On explicitly enabled) followed by Lightroom restarts. The issue occurs regardless of GPU acceleration status.
    • Performed clean installations of NVIDIA GPU drivers. Tested thoroughly with driver version 572.76 and confirmed the issue persists even with the latest production driver R570 U4 (573.06) (released April 28, 2025), also installed cleanly.
  3. Lightroom Application Resets:
    • Performed a full Lightroom Preference Reset using the Alt+Shift key combination during launch and confirming the dialog prompt.
    • Manually located and reset the Lightroom AI Model Cache by renaming/deleting relevant folders (e.g., ModelZoo, CR_OCPS, ModelAssets within relevant %APPDATA%\Adobe\CameraRaw, %APPDATA%\Adobe\Lightroom, or %LOCALAPPDATA%\Adobe\Lightroom folders) to force a complete redownload of AI assets.
    • Performed a full uninstall and reinstall of Lightroom Desktop 8.3 via the Creative Cloud application, including associated component cleanup where possible.
  4. System Environment Isolation:
    • Created a brand new local Administrator user account on Windows. Logged into the new account, launched Lightroom, synced minimal data, and tested AI masking. The intermittent issue persists in the new user profile.
    • Reviewed running background processes and services; disabled non-essential software temporarily; no obvious conflicts identified.
    • Ensured the Operating System (Windows 11 Pro 24H2) is fully updated with all current patches.
    • Performed multiple system restarts throughout the troubleshooting process.
  5. Content Variance Test:
    • Tested the AI masking overlay issue across numerous different image files (various camera RAW formats, JPGs). The problem where overlays fail to show for Subject/Sky/Object/Landscape masks occurs intermittently, seemingly dependent on the specific image, but the exact trigger hasn't been identified. Background/People masks consistently work on the same images where others fail.

 

Context Regarding Related Issues:

The intermittent nature makes this difficult to reproduce reliably. I have seen a related (though different) report in the Community about AI mask overlays failing 'on hover' in Lightroom Desktop 8.3, potentially indicating broader instability with AI mask visualization in this version.

Impact:

This bug introduces unpredictability and significantly hinders workflow when using Subject, Sky, Object, or Landscape AI masks, as visual confirmation is unreliable. It forces extra steps or requires rolling back to a previous version to guarantee functionality.

 

Request to Adobe and Community:

  1. Is Adobe aware of this specific issue (intermittent invisibility of Subject/Sky/Object/Landscape AI mask overlays) in Lightroom Desktop 8.3? Is it under investigation?
  2. Are other users encountering this specific type of intermittent failure with these particular AI masks? If so, have any specific image characteristics or triggers been identified?
  3. Are there any known conflicts or alternative workarounds (beyond downgrading) that might address this inconsistency?

Any insights or official acknowledgement would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


34 replies

Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
June 17, 2025

Greetings all, 

 

A new update for the Adobe Photography products has been released.  The June update contains an update for this issue. 

If you do not see the update in your Creative Cloud Application, you can refresh it by hitting [Ctrl/Cmd]+[Alt/Opt]+[ R ].

Note: It may take up to 24 hours for your update to be available in your Creative Cloud app.

 

Thank you for being so patient.

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
Known Participant
June 17, 2025

 

 

I am still waiting for a response regarding why my report about linear gradients rotating when resized if lens corrections are enabled was merged with this thread without any explanation.

Participant
May 30, 2025

Can we get an idea as to when this will be fixed? This is a persisent issue for me as well. Not only does the overlay periodically disappear at various times on various photos but on several occasion I will attempt to subtract from a mask with the brush tool and it actually ADDS to the original mask instead. or I get a (for lack of a better word) SLASH through my photo from the top left corner to the point where I was applying the brush tool. 

 

Participant
May 27, 2025

I had this problem occur last night, the brief highlights.  I tried restarting, no joy, deleted preference file no joy, uninstalled LR then reinstalled no joy.  Contacted Adobe chat support gave computer details and Adobe said Intel drivers needed updating.  That update knocked out my Laptop monitor so had to find an external one. By this time the chat had been closed due to inactivity.

Start again this time we got the photo open, did a desk top share and Adobe then blamed my network for "latency" issues and suggested I connect to a different one then disconnected the chat when I said I don't have multiple networks.  Thanks guys.

Round 3 of the chat, photo open, desktop share and the other end has a poke around and decides we need to roll back to earlier version of LR.  Back we go to version 8, more poking around and the mask overly is still not working.  I (note me not Adobe guy) spot the "Show overlay" is toggled off.  I suggest he turns it on and hey, ho everthing (aside from my monitor now works).  We are now 2.5 hours in and I have a legacy version of LR that works but is out of date, a load of drivers that have knocked out my monitor and guess what, the support guy tries to sell me more products! An easy offer to decline.

Another hour or so doing a system restore to get the old drivers back followed by rolling back LR again via Creative Cloud and I can go back editing my spider photo.  Except it is now beyond midnight and I am exhausted.

I was given the distinct impression this was not a known problem and unique to my computer.  I wonder if they actually read this forum and as to working hard to resolve it, I am unconvinced.  The last guy on the chat suggested I don't roll forward again for 5 or so updates!

Cheers

G

 

ZaneRoushPhotography
Participant
May 27, 2025

I recently came across an overlay problem. Whenever I have an mask, it will not show it at all. I have to duplicate the same mask for it to show, and then sometimes (majority of the time) it will just disappear again seconds later. Please, if someone has a fix to this legitimately annoying problem, PLEASE tell me! Opacity is not at zero and color is set to red. 

AxelMatt
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 27, 2025

This seems to be a problem with CameraRAW. Try to reset the Camrea RAW settings to the defualt values and try again.

 

If this doesn't help, we need more informations about your system. Please provide a copy of your 'System Info'. This can be get from the Photoshop menu item Help > System Info. There's a copy button in the System Info dialog. Press this button and paste the info into your next forum post.

 

 

 

 

 

My System: Intel i7-8700K - 64GB RAM - NVidia Geforce RTX 3060 - Windows 11 Pro 25H2 -- LR-Classic 15 - Photoshop 27 - Nik Collection 8 - PureRAW 5 - Topaz Photo
Known Participant
May 21, 2025

Fair enough! 

Known Participant
May 21, 2025

I don't doubt whether or not they're trying their hardest—just whether or not the effectiveness of their trying makes sense for a company of Adobe's size. As I stated before, how consistently they fail to reproduce trivial bugs when I can do so within minutes of reading the report is indicative of a much larger systemic issue at Adobe. 

 

Also, who the heck (and why) merged my report about linear gradients rotating slowly when lens corrections are enabled with this thread? And why was it done so without any feedback as to why it's being done?

 

@Sameer K  @Rikk Flohr: Photography 

Known Participant
May 21, 2025

I've no doubt the Lightroom team are trying their hardest, although I'm sure we'd all appreciate at least an update or reassurance that this bug is being looked into and that the team has now been able to replicate the bug - even if a fix hasn't yet been found. In response to some of the comments saying this is to do with zoom, that's not the case with me. They will disappear even when im fully zoomed out and haven't touched the zoom. I'm also not confident in my previous message saying it largely affected certain masks more than others. It has affected other masks since I wrote that message. And there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason (or trigger) for their disappearance - at least in my case. I'm at a loss to explain or identify any pattern or cause

Known Participant
May 21, 2025

Yeah after I wrote my experience, it also did it on color select mask. I don't know what the deal is but they need to fix it. And by need to fix it, I mean they need to actively work on it instead of being like "we couldn't reproduce it so we'll just move on." This is a damning bug. Can't even use masks? Asburd. It's a strictly a visual bug, it should be an easy enough fix. Just look at the code. Does it account for variable zoom-in percentages? Maybe start there. 

simonw7491262
Participant
May 21, 2025

@Rikk Flohr: Photography hi, the steps I added in my report which were merged with this are 100% for me. Are there logs I can provide to help with this? The issue has been going on for several weeks now and is seriously affecting my ability to use Lightroom.