Generative Fill being hyper-sensitive?

Report · Apr 29, 2024

Hi!

Is the Generative Fill feature more restrictive now? There seems to be a lot of things I could create in the base PhotoShop that the Beta flat out rejects. Further, it seems like these rejections are random, and that's really frustrating - especially since it takes the program 10 seconds to say "no". It's really annoying. I've always had issues with PhotoShop blocking otherwise inocous prompts, but the current Beta release takes it to the next level. What's going on, will this be adressed, and will there be more clarity provided?

Report · Apr 29, 2024

Can you share some examples of prompts that failed?

Report · Feb 02, 2025

LOLOLL this guy

Report · Apr 29, 2024

"Swimsuit", honestly. I can understand why Adobe is sensitive with that prompt - fine. But the applications seem inconsistent. I got the top three to work - even one with an exposed midriff, but the last one it didn't want to do anything. And that's what I find frustrating - I have no idea when it'll work and when it won't. I get the same problem with reference images - sometimes bikinis are fine, sometimes they're not. Sometimes one-pieces are fine, and sometimes they're not. Again, I can understand why Adobe is being sensitive - fine. But I want consistency. (I blacked out the person's face since they were photos from an event; the first two are from stock pictures).

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Report · Apr 29, 2024

It's stuff like this that bugs me. Possibly racy image, sure, but if you look at the selection I was trying to cover her up. Even a blank prompt didn't work in Beta. Went to the current (stable) version of PhotoShop - 25.7 - and it filled it in for me. And, again, it's not consistent. It's really driving me nuts.

Report · Apr 29, 2024

Sorry I'm new to this... I should've uploaded this as a picture. Anyway, Beta wouldn't fill it, but stable PhotoShop will.

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Report · Apr 30, 2024

Will there ever be a time when you can turn off community guidelines for the private use of the software you're continuously paying for?

Having to convince Photoshop that I'm not making explicit content is pretty frustrating.

And for that matter, why is there a nudity/blood/weapons/violence policing of my software in the first place?

If the image generated isn't what Adobe wants in their source pool, don't save it.

As a final insult, I wasn't allowed to post this question without first removing the 4 letter p.word which refers to explicit nudity... Just... really?

Report · Apr 30, 2024

Yeah, I understand. Even moreso when it's confusing about what's allowed and what isn't, and what that thing makes anyway.

Report · Feb 28, 2025

Report · Apr 30, 2024

Same here. I had both apps opened simultaneously and Beta blocked most of the prompts but photoshop allowed them.

Report · May 17, 2024

See, it's crap like this that drives me nuts. Don't know what's wrong, processor takes 10-15 seconds to reject it, and I'm pulling my hair in frustration. I know this is Firefly, not PhotoShop Beta, but I'm getting the same type of errors in Photoshop Beta. Anyone?

Report · May 20, 2024

Is the screenshot browser window your image and you have the rights to edit/use? You should review the AI guidelines for using third party images.

https://www.adobe.com/legal/licenses-terms/adobe-gen-ai-user-guidelines.html

Report · May 30, 2024

It's a screenshot I took, and I've done this many times before without any issue. I just feel like there's no consistency with what Adobe blocks and what it doesn't, and I'm irritated that I have to wait 10-15 seconds each time to find that out.

Report · Jan 31, 2025

That is not why it was blocked and quite honestly a weak answer. The AI filter is well documented in NUMEROUS threads over the last year with more and more people complaining about it. It blocks family vacation photos if someone is in a swimsuit or anything that has "too much" skin. Professional photographers cannot use it often if they work with models, especially swimsuit models. Adobe is an innovative leader with generative fill and can train the AI to recognize things better. I have been blocked many times trying to correct fingers because it assumes something else. The simple answer is they need to adjust the model filters, otherwise do not offer a product that works half of the time to paying customers.

Report · Jan 31, 2025

@Tommy James that wasn't why I asked the question. If you review the terms of use - using AI on screenshots like this is a violation of those terms.

But to your point this is exactly the reason the filtering is in place - to prevent misuse. Is it too sensitive? Sure you can argue that - but the example above doesn't help.

Report · Feb 25, 2025

Yes, same here. VERY frustratiing. ANd on totally innocuous images.

Report · Feb 02, 2025

This tool went from the best thing ever — they could have taken over entire industries and education sectors if they had stood behind it instead of the sora bandwagon — then they gutted it, and trained a new model with ONLY their stock photos. The result? everyone looks like they're standing in a 90's Sears Portrait. It was simultaneously one of the worst business decisions since gen AI came out, and the most absolutely obnoxiously DGAF about artists move that any creative brand has ever made. I went from using it all day, for months on end, to never touching it. Literally said yesterday to someone how much I miss this tool back when you could create legitimate fashion and interior design. That's always been Adobe though. They're like an adult who never sorted out their trauma — occasional brilliant idea surrounded by illogical, emotionally driven terrible ideas. They didn't even turn around to change their plans back when they created literally two cloud systems for their app suite and they weren't connected, while offering discounts to dropbox, and the teams accounts didn't even have shared folders. Even look at Creative Cloud app — they just up and decided, nah, people don't want to use their computers OS built in Finder/File system. Not even a web browser. Let's make a absolutely terrible walled garden and then when they realize all the roses are either fake or rotting, we'll tell them that they are too late or too early to cancel their subscription. If you can't tell I'm really looking forward to 20 years from now when they're teaching business students and use Adobe to illustrate some of the most disconnected executive functioning (wow, the same reason people have ADHD and other neuro disorders — their lower brain can't communicate with the executive functioning part of the brain. They stacked their offices with developers who don't push back. You probaly could pick out the exact month it started just by back tracking their UI changes. Because, you know, I always wanted 8 different ways to do the same thing in photoshop that are all visible to click at the same time. When gen AI came out it was the same with so many companies – the senior executives refused to let the young make decisions because OmG It iS aRtIficIaL InTelLigEncE — meanwhile they were all sooooo deep into the xanax that they shouldn't have been driving, let alone making business decisions. The kicker that is icing on the cake is that, the one gen AI sector they dumped all their eggs into the same basket for: Video — platued and Sora is hilariously terrible. They really could have entire schools designing using gen fill by now had they not decided they didn't give a fk about the artists who weren't in hollywood. pHEW NEEDED to get that out. God I have hundreds of gorgeous, novel, even genius, outfits and jewlery on the best models lol and now you get ... that girl wearing literally a top of the 90s. God it is hilarious and devistating.

Report · Feb 02, 2025

HA i'm just seeing i already commented once before and apparently they removed part of it - how.. authoritarian. great business sense those guys

Report · Mar 18, 2025

I saw that, I commented too and it was removed. At least we know someone is looking at our comments lol

Report · Mar 18, 2025

I saw that, I commented too and it was removed. At least we know someone is looking at our comments lol

By dave12345645

The only content removed by modorators is abuse, email addresses and personal information, advertising (spam) links, and that's about all. I have no idea what might have been removed from Sean's long post. IME no one reads long posts that are not broken into paragraphs.

Report · Jul 18, 2024

it is AI and it sort of has a mind of its own and will move in different directions over time.

I'm making fashion images and NO SPEEDOS except like once randomly in a blue moon.

Which is a real bummer because when they first released FireFly it was what art should be. Throwing dudes in dresses and heels -- not like you needed to use the image. But there has definitely been a shift that they are in some way influencing, even as AI shifts on it's own.

It is really frustraiting.

Sometimes I have to litereally write out a gay sob story to play into the stereotype and it'll generate "gay" things — which, a speedo is not, I mean there were more straight men on the beach with speedos last year than the year before and so on — and like other countries. And even shorts like litereally normal shorts, especially for a fashion lookbook are a 5-7" inseam but it refuses to put shorts over the dudes knee which is like 90s and I just get to angry because WHO is this helping and protecting and when did ART become this. I've been experimenting using OpenSource and, it is okay I mean you get what you want but like, it is so literal. I miss when Adobe wasn't crazy ... like 5 years ago? I've been using it for a decade at least. I stopped paying twice and they give a free month because like the creative process they force is the opposite of flow and ugh I could go on for hours I am just so dissapointed in them. Particuarly like, they *could* know who is doing what. I'd be happy to share my projects. There are a million other solutions and they just half their censorship, it's just.. I mean they have been all around disappointing to the max since AI. Once I master the learning curve for Stable Diffusion, which seems more about finding a model to download with it, I'm so out.

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Report · Feb 02, 2025

I think I might have noticed a change in how Gen Fill is working. I used to tell people to temporarily hide the potentially contentious area, use Gen Fill and turn the problem pixels back on again, but the last few times I have tried that trick, it no longer worked. Could it be looking at turned off layers or behind masks?

Report · Feb 28, 2025

The words you're looking for are: "Hyper Censored"

Report · Mar 17, 2025

I think its honestly silly. You have to be 18 or older to use AI gen, why censor results that are adult oriented in the first place? Last time I checked photoshop is supposed to be a professional tool used by professionals and believe it or not there is professional photography that involves swimsuits, lingerie, nudity, etc.

If you have to be 18 to use it why does it act like its PG/PG13? Do you think people over the age of 18 can't handle a little smoke, or a swimsuit top, or nudity? And if you do, give us an option to say "allow X".