Generative Fill being hyper-sensitive?

[Michael30663947sjbj]

Hi!

Is the Generative Fill feature more restrictive now? There seems to be a lot of things I could create in the base PhotoShop that the Beta flat out rejects. Further, it seems like these rejections are random, and that's really frustrating - especially since it takes the program 10 seconds to say "no". It's really annoying. I've always had issues with PhotoShop blocking otherwise inocous prompts, but the current Beta release takes it to the next level. What's going on, will this be adressed, and will there be more clarity provided? 

[elegant_fanB830]

Yes, this is super frustrating. As a company we work in retouching business and we are currently retouching underwear campaign. I cant even remove creases off the underwear at the moment, results simply dont generate. People on photos are not naked, they are wearing underwear, bra's and pants, but this seems to be an issue now. So how we as a business suppose to use Adobe now?

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@elegant_fanB830 have you tried using the Remove Tool? Much more efficient than gen fill for that type of retouching.

[elegant_fanB830]

Seriously Kevin,

I dont think your answer is even funny or sarcastic. Tools are there to perform tasks, and when you have teams of people working or "commercial campaigns" those tools have to perform. Absence of guidlines or actual tool availability in randomised manner is a problem when you rely on them. Removing particular patterns from clothing may take additional time. When jobs are quoted, they are quoted with relatively strict time restraints on performing certain level of retouching to be done. 1,2 or 3 hrs per image.. 

And when suddenly your tool is not avaialble because there is a belly button visible on the image, it puts you as a company in a very uncomfortable position, where you quoted 2hrs of work but now suddenly it will take 4hrs. So your budget spirals out of control and suddenly from being in profit you end up working at a loss, because someone in GenAI deparments thought that belly button is too much to handle for AI.

This just looks like a clear lack of experience or oversight within teams that make those products available for commercial customers. And showing you picture of a Adobe being a company ran by executives for creatives, and those executives have their own vision of whats allowed and whats not. 

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

Wasnt meant to be funny or sarcastic - I do similar work in my role and removing wrinkles even with complex patterns and shapes in fabrics has proven to be much more effective using the Remove tool than Generative fill. Not defening GF at all - in fact it gave us less than acceptable results most times meaning we spent more time trying to execute - hence why we switched to the Remove Tool (which does have AI capabilities).