When selecting a layer and dragging a corner handle with the shift (or alt-shift) key pressed, the resize proportion isn't constrained. This started with this most recent update.
I've read on more than one photo forum where the name Scott Kelby comes up but I don't have any verification, but really it's the responsibility of the product manager to say yay or nay for any feature, whether it's being added, removed or changed. Have we seen THAT person take even a gram of ownership. That's what I thought. At this point, with the complete radio silence from Adobe, I think the term coward(s) starts to be appropriate.
The word coward was appropriate from day one years ago... they hide behind silence so you dont know if they are aware or not. The silence and hubris will be their eventual downfall.
@Peter Chater: Scott Kelby runs a forum that is not filled with working professionals in any creative field. The only professionals there are the very few instructors left and who come in the community forum to paint this unicorn world photographers live in apparently, and not much else. His target demographic is rich retirees who can spend a lot of money on the gear he promotes from B & H, ProPhoto, Platypod and others. There are maybe 2 working professionals in a creative field there, so sadly for us who have deadlines to meet, we have no representation there, and total newbies and leisure rich amateurs continue to decide what happens to Photoshop and also to Classic Lightroom. I was a KelbyOne member for over 8 years, started with NAPP, and once the transition happened and that 'community forum" was opened you wouldn't believe the kind of stuff that those folks want. Also, there is no coherent way to learn Photoshop on that platform; it goes from learning blending modes to advanced color grading nobody understands or will use in the photos they take. Also, none of those people do graphics in PS or bounce between PS + IL + ID, so I expect more things to be ruined for us as long as those are the people who get to vote on Photoshop features. There is also a "buddy buddy" system there between Scott Kelby & Terry White, Julianne Kost etc., and none of them focus on "how" real professionals that work in magazines, ad companies, clothing companies, etc., are using Photoshop. It's beyond being "cowardly", it's to see how much they can dumb it down for their retired users who have no deadlines and have lost the ability to learn too, hence my earlier comment that those demographics should stick to Elements. I have been to several of their "live recorded" classes and I was the only one in the 40's age group; everyone else was over 70 and 80 years old and there was no one in their 20's, or 30's. In the last two years 1% of their instructors were actual pro's and everyone else invited to "teach" has a different day job or is a total amateur not interested in making an income in an ad agency or as a professional photographer. KelbyOne is the worst thing that has happened to photography since "auto" and Social Media/YouTube came along. The worst, and those of us with actual work and have deadlines will continue to suffer as a result. I freelance, but I still have deadlines, I am not "free" to be done "whenever".
It's really sad that the focus of a company who is known and respected for producing professional software is to now dumb it down to address non working in creative fields demographics.
There's a balance with professional software at this level between accessibility for first-time-users and core functionality workflow for the people who use it on the daily for work. Thanks for pointing out the Kelby angle. If the community forums of weekend photographers is louder than the one of designers and production artists, the PMs are naturally going to start gravitating towards features that appeal to the amateur. Instead of focusing on things like performance, file bloat, consistency, compatibility, you get things like the "New Start Screen" and fly-out video help toasters on your toolbar.
Adobe is going the way of Apple, and while it seems inconceivable we’d use anything other than Photoshop, it was inconceivable a few years ago that I would eradicate Apple software from my life, and regularly test Windows (v10 is much improved). We shouldn’t kid ourselves, Adobe has its eyes on other markets and we’ve all noticed it with the ‘features’ added in recent years. It may take years but I’m definitely keeping my options open.
I had no idea Kelby was still a thing. I thought he'd flamed out after his excessive claims for Lightroom vs Photoshop were debunked — if no one remembers, photographers who didn't make the move were all said to be willing to destroy their original data, so everyone should want to dump Photoshop and use Lightroom, which preserved their original data.<sigh>
But yes, I agree with Max. If the Kelby organization has the ear of Adobe, not as one more, but as a heavily weighted group compared to the rest of us, it does explain the trend towards pushing features on us that they think will be less confusing to beginners. I do so hope that's not true. There are even a lot of amateurs, photographers and artists, who need the real power of Photoshop, and as I keep saying, are willing and able, at all ages, to learn what they need to learn so they can do what they want to do.
Is there also a script to deactivate that always interfering Auto-commit of transforms by clicking in the canvas? This is even more annoying for me than the completely messed up integration of propoprtionals transform!
--------- Adobe Community Expert: "Gewusst wie, spart Energie."
And Marla only described the consequences for scaling constrain behaviors. It all gets even worse if you try to perspectively transform or distort while constraining the movement of the anchors to straight lines. Everything is totally messed up, depending on the layer type. The most annoying change since the creation of Photoshop!
--------- Adobe Community Expert: "Gewusst wie, spart Energie."
Is there also a script to deactivate that always interfering Auto-commit of transforms by clicking in the canvas? This is even more annoying for me than the completely messed up integration of propoprtionals transform!
--------- Adobe Community Expert: "Gewusst wie, spart Energie."
I'm a trained monkey. Every time I transform and want to rotate, too, I click in the wrong place, hit Cmd-T again, and try to be more careful. I'd complain, but I have been doing that since they ruined text for me by making click to commit, so I just sigh, sigh, sigh and repeat the process while trying hard not to be so aggravated over and over and over.
I'd go along with Auto-commit for text and transform if it only worked when you clicked on the interface, not the document. And it's not impossible to do. There's code that knows you've clicked on the interface, not on your image. Then it would be more convenient, instead of a major inconvenience.
They do, very very deeply too. What I don't understand are two things: A) why AIGA isn't 100% involved with Adobe to where Adobe is consulting them first when making major changes like this one.
B) why is Adobe hell bent on supporting amateurs instead of professionals who use their products for 12+ hours a day.
I can actually answer "B" by simply saying "newer generations" woke up on YouTube and only a few people from these generations still value a 4 year solid education in graphic design/photography (because the cost of those degrees versus wages is lopsided), and so they're dumbing stuff down for YouTubers and weekend users at the request of KelbyOne wannabe's, which is very disappointing, annoying and sad for us pro's. I wish Bert Monroy could save Photoshop for us, but I don't know that he can or is willing to.
This thread could really use more "Me Too" votes at the top. Of course, almost as my people who've voted for it have also left it.
There is a very good chance of Free Transform reverting complete or at least getting a "Use Legacy Transform Controls" in the preferences if this get a high vote count.
Ben, don't you find that Windows basically crushes one's creative soul? Okay, I'm over stating it a bit. Windows has gotten to be very Mac like over the years with some improvements; however, the Windows Color Picker burns a hole in my mind's eye anytime it pops up.
What I find scary, is that there is no guarantee about Affinity. Once you start going deep and try to speed up workflow. Who knows what could happen?
If I am annoyed about this transform thing, certainly learning a entire new program is going to have it's curves. How effective can you be with brand new software? Can you trust it's technically efficient?
This was the worse mistake Adobe had made, ever. But they have a relatively decent track record. I think they have their tail between the legs on this one, and eventually they will revert back. I hope.
warren@thompson Yep! But Windows has improved to the point where it's possible to switch. Recent Apple/Adobe decisions create doubts, even if we end up staying.
Sometimes, the alternative is simply a company who cares more - whatever we think of the change, Adobe's assessment/implementation/communication has been sub-par.
@Cristen Gillespie Heres what I am not getting... is it that important to use v20 that you need to put up with all the aggravation? As soon as v20 aggravated me I dumped it.
I know sweat shops in India who do retouching still using pirated copies of CS6 and do darn good work... why would anyone need to put up with Adobe's insults to its long time users in favour of some old Kelby fogies and a ton of broke school kids on iPads.
Adobe is heading down the wrong road by pissing us off with bad software and they will find out much sooner than later.
For the near term or even the mid term, using older versions is fine. I mean, really, what are the real, useful differences between CC2018 and CC2019. Precious few of any consequence as far as I can tell, and some of the ones they really touted might work well on a web sized demo but are completely worthless on real world hi-res imagery. And there appears to be one more crappy bug I've run into now. The toggle on/off check in the Curves dialog simply does nothing at all now, at least when using an Fkey action to bring that dialog up, which also brings up the old old, much more desirable (IME) curves interface. You can still toggle the entire Adj Layer on and off but it ain't working right over here.
The longer Adobe goes without saying a thing, the worse it looks for them. But they've already got our money and that's all that really counts in the end.
Maybe this was their long term plan all along. Force everyone into a mandatory monthly payment, choke the life out of the program, then laugh all the way to the bank.
Thank you TangCanada! I’m in total agreement. I dumped v20 almost right away...not just because of the problem with the free transform tool and the horrible auto commit and type tool fiasco... but also due to the endless bugs it has. I honestly have to wonder why we would continue paying for a subscription when we can use pirated Adobe software that actually works ourselves.
I don’t encourage pirated software and wouldn’t use it myself. The point I am trying to make, however, is that if Adobe doesn’t care about their professional customers,why stay loyal to them? They won’t even provide us with a proper page to report bugs, but rather put up this blog for us to have a bitch-fest. I ended up on this blog under this subject simply because I wanted to report buggy behavior on the new v20, and had my comment merged tothis topic even though the “free” transform tool was a minor part of the subject.
I had two instances where these forums here actually solved a problem that was very significant.
First --- In 2014, my Wacom had a problem toggle with Shortcut X between foreground and background. ( o I thought( At that time I retouched skin with the grey layer technique as I learned from Kathrin Eismann's photoshop book. This technique was not working anymore. Toggling had a lag or did not switch at all. After speaking to Wacom extensively, they blamed it on photoshop. Turns out it was a photoshop bug. Photoshop did not reply directly. I published it on macnn ( a forum that doesn't exist anymore) and wrote to Kathryn, telling her that the technique she describes is useless. Upon that "pressure", Photoshop software engineers specifically wrote a plugin that got rid of the toggle problem and later implemented it in an update.
Second --- One or two years later, designers changed the Interface and it was quite a nightmare! All the colors were gone and all was much harder to see. After lots of retouchers complained a couple of us wrote and even drew up examples what we thought will work better, like colors for layers and colors for paths even ( that came later)
Throughout the process the communication was not the greatest. But in the end they changed it. I am sure the people who are directly involved read these comments and will take them to heart. I am not sure how much they have to say in that matter. It might be a marketing thing or a political issue in which direction photoshop will head, I agree.
What might work for the the future is to report this to people like Phlearn, photoshop magazines, retouching forums etc.
MacNN at that time picked up the story and that definitely helped.
I think what doesn't help is being rude or advising to use pirated software.
Then like me I will just skip reading the comment
I am of course very upset about the unworkable update and hope this will get resolved soon.
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