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Belichtungsquartier
Belichtungsquartier
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November 4, 2021

P: Brush Outline/Circle disappearing when working with masks

There is already a discussion in the community "Brush Outline/Circle disappearing intermittently (NOT CAPS LOCK) ". But since I have figured out in detail how to reproduce the behavior and when it becomes present, I want to report the issue officialy that Adobe hopefully will fix this in one of the next upcoming patch releases.

 

OS Environment:

  • Win 10 Pro 64bit 21H1
  • Adobe Ps 23.0.2

 

The issue is only present in combination when using Masks on a layer!

  1. Create a new document (white, black or transparent layer)
  2. Add a Mask to the layer
  3. Select the layer OR the mask (independent on what you want to paint)
  4. Select the brush tool
  5. Try to start moving the mouse quickliy and pressing the left mouse button nearly at the same time and keep the mouse button pressed
  6. Try to repeat until the you get locked in the issue and the brush circle disappears and the mouse arrow becomes visible

 

When working with a mouse as input device, the chance to facing this issue is probably rare because this kind of operation, moving the mouse and clicking the button nearly at the same time is kindly unnatural.

But it looks different when using a pen tablet as input device, because now it becomes a more natural operation when hover the pen toward the tablet surface and then drop down onto the surface to start painting.

 

Kind regards

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    Belichtungsquartier
    Belichtungsquartier作成者
    Participating Frequently
    December 5, 2021

    Hi @J453,

    I have already cereated a screen recording that will show the behavior. But unfortunately there is no option to upload a video to this platform. How can I provide you this video sequence?

     

    Kind regards

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    worldruined
    Participating Frequently
    December 5, 2021

    I can try to give you any information I have, but I'm not sure what the factor might be outside of Photoshop 2022 versus older versions. I don't have any 3rd party panels, extensions, or plugins installed outside of Adobe's Camera Raw. I can do a dump of the "System Info" Photoshop pulls up, if that would help.

     

    ...After playing around a bit, I might have narrowed down the circumstances in which this happens -- although it still seems somewhat random.

     

    1. painting cursors set to "normal brush tip"
    2. dodge or burn tool set to 750px
    3. use the brush on the canvas
    4. Edit > Fade x Tool > x%
    5. use the brush again

     

    Intermittenly, the circle online will disappear upon using the brush after fading the previous stroke.

     

    I'm not sure if it has to do with timing -- if Photoshop is lagging on executing the "fade" command, and trying to use the brush again too quickly is what's causing the circle to disappear, or if it's some other factor. All I know is the problem only cropped up after updating to PS 2022.

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      J453
      Legend
      December 5, 2021

      I haven't been able to reproduce this. I've asked for some other folks on the team to help try and reproduce. There may be some other secret ingredients to make it happen. (UI scaling, GPU, installed extensions or 3rd party panels - or we're simply not hitting the timing just right) Let me know if anything jumps out as a smoking gun. I tried @Belichtungsquartier steps with no luck. Maybe a screen recording of the entire Photoshop workspace demostrating the behavior may help.

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        TimKamppinen
        Known Participant
        November 4, 2021

        I just updated to PS 2022 (I was still on 2019 previously). Now whenever I am using the brush tool, the circle showing the size of the brush will disappear sometimes when I initiate a brush stroke, and instead I see only a regular windows-style "arrow" cursor (not the crosshair - I am not pressing caps lock by mistake). This happens intermittently and seemingly randomly. It makes it difficult to work with layer masks, etc. since I cannot see the boundaries of where I am brushing.

         

        I'm on a Windows 10 PC.

        Anyone else have this issue? Any known fixes?

          Belichtungsquartier
          Belichtungsquartier作成者
          Participating Frequently
          December 1, 2021

          Now I have played a bit and I was able to narrow down the topic.

          The behavior is reproducible and I will explain in detail how.

           

          The issue is only present in combination when using Masks on a layer!

          1. Create a new document (white, black, transparent...)
          2. Add a Mask to the layer
          3. Select the layer or the mask (independent on what you want to paint)
          4. Select the brush tool
          5. Try to start moving the mouse quickliy and pressing the left mouse button nearly at the same time and keep the mouse button pressed
          6. Try to repeat until the you get locked in the issue and the brush circle disappears and the mouse arrow becomes visible

           

          When working with a mouse as input device, the chance to facing this issue is probably rare because this kind of operation, moving the mouse and clicking the button nearly at the same time is kindly unnatural.

          But it looks different when using a pen tablet as input device, because now it becomes a more natural operation when hover the pen toward the tablet surface and then drop down onto the surface to start painting.

           

          Hope someone else can reproduce the problem using these detailed steps too.

           

          Kind regards...

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