Colour difference

[brettg77707440]

So I will go into as much detail as I can about my issue.

I use a Canon 5Dmkii set to colour profile sRBG.

My Photoshop working space is set to sRGB 2.1.

I have a colour calibrated laptop with a Spyder 5 express.

When I upload my images from my CF card to my laptop and then upload them to Photoshop it says the profile is missing. How is this when they both are set to sRBG?

I do a killer edit then go to export but when convert to sRBG is selected it drains the colour but when I tick embedded colour profile is becomes more red? What is going on and why?

Export to jpeg. Preserve details

[D Fosse]

brettg77707440  wrote

So i can totally dis guard what i see in windows, if i do it how i want in PS and embedd the colour it will always be right?

That's right.

Color management isn't complicated in itself. It gets complicated when other applications break it.

Windows is actually the perfect platform for color critical work, because the operating system doesn't interfere (as MacOS does). As long as the application you're using does it right, you know it's good.

But I do agree that the Windows-resident applications, like the "Photos" viewer, and their web browsers, should be color managed. They can if they want to, the previous "Windows Photo Viewer" was very reliably color managed.

[brettg77707440]

Thank you, also about my question on lightoom website, is this not colour managed as uploaded photos to that from the computer look drained, using chrome as browser.

[brettg77707440]

D Fosse​ Still issues my friend. screenshot of in photoshop. you can see the display profile, all other settings are default.

On the left is an uploaded image to pixieset website which is how i usually deliver my images, clearly a massive difference, im now beginning to think either my screen is on its way out or the spyder is a dodgy one.

[D Fosse]

Right.

Brett, what you’re describing cannot happen. I mean, it can happen, but not the way you’re describing it. So there’s something you’re not telling us. You’re doing things you’re not telling us about. Now, you probably don’t mean that, you’re just impatient, I get it. But you also need to keep in mind that we’re not mindreaders.

This doesn't look like a broken profile to me, but let's see. Never hurts to get that out of the way.

Until Per's questions are answered, I’m going to give you a general color management troubleshooting guide. It has only three points, and it is 100% reliable and bulletproof. If these three conditions are fulfilled, the image will display correctly on screen. It has to. That is an absolute guarantee:

• Does the image have an embedded document profile, and is it the right one? The right profile corresponds to the color space the file was actually created in.
• Do you have a valid monitor profile set up at system level, and is it correctly loaded by the application? A valid monitor profile is one that accurately describes the actual and current response of the display, the way it behaves at the moment.
• Are you viewing the file in a color managed application? It must read both these profiles and correctly convert from document color space into monitor color space, and then send these converted values to the display.

[brettg77707440]

I've read this 4 times now and it's still a little confusing.

embededd document profile as in sRGB? i looked at the image in bridge and states sRGB. (see below)

Monitor profile is set to sRGB 2.1 as was advised by Per Berntsen​.

viewing the file in PS, Bridge, Ifranview,

all consistent but if the monitor profile is set then it will show all the same anyway yes?

uploading is a different story all together when it come to viewing images on a mobile device, very saturated and looks more red

[brettg77707440]

Also i have downloaded Irfanview, is this the setting you meant Per Berntsen​

[D Fosse]

sRGB as monitor profile is the standard way to test the current profile, because that takes the monitor profile completely out of the equation.  sRGB is pretty close to the native response of most standard displays. So it should look roughly right. However, the calibrator should do better, and get it exactly right. But your Spyder doesn't.

So that's why I'd run it again to make sure. If it still gives the same bad result, throw it away or return it.

Thanks to Per who pushed this. I considered it earlier, but frankly didn't think that was the problem. I was wrong.

A defective monitor profile can give very unpredictable results, and it can be hard to pinpoint until you just take it out. What's worse, it can often work well in some applications, and cause others to choke.

[brettg77707440]

Thanks, im so sorry about all this is hair pulling. i shall run the Spyder again and see what happens. i will keep you all upto date.

I have a friend who uses a spyder pro so im getting to use hers in the next week to test and see if it makes a difference and then i will know if its the spyder or the monitor.

[brettg77707440]

Ok so i re-calibrated off the back of sRGB. are you guys ready for this haha. i added some saturation to the image just so it was more noticeable then exported with all bells and whistles.

(Below) PS and adobe bridge same

Below is PS and Ifranview

Below is PS and Pixieset website using google chrome