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Cursor Issue in Photoshop

Explorer ,
Mar 22, 2023 Mar 22, 2023

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I've found that when I'm drawing in Photoshop at the end of a brushstoke the tool cursor momentarily appears as the mouse cursor. It's only for a slip second and appears as an annoying flicker with repeated strokes. I'm not sure if this is a Photoshop issue or perhaps an error with my Intuos Wacom Tablet. I've using the latest driver, version of Photoshop and Ventura 13.2.1. 

 

This issue is worse when working on a new .psd file for some odd reason. Any suggestions? 

Thank you in adavance. 

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Enthusiast , Mar 28, 2023 Mar 28, 2023

Oh finally...!
Of course, I feel sorry that you are experiencing this bug.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-discussions/cursor-disappears-when-use-brush-or-cloenstamp-things/m-p/13672763#M716482

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-bugs/p-brush-outline-circle-disappearing-when-working-with-masks/idc-p/13679982/page/5#M79434

 

I reported this on the bug tab but it was moved to the Discussions tab, and the thread posted by someone else was merged into an unrelated topic

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Mar 22, 2023 Mar 22, 2023

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HI @daveallsop go to Mac System Settings/ Accessibility/Display and make sure your "pointer" size is not increased.

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Mar 22, 2023 Mar 22, 2023

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Thank you for the response - the pointer size was not increased.  

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Mar 28, 2023 Mar 28, 2023

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Hi,

 

I just wanted to follow up as I'm still encountering thids problem: I appears that as soon as I create a new layer, the jittery cursor issue happens for a minute or so, then the error stops. But it starts again whever I create another layer. It's very frustrating; doesn't any have any ideas or suggestions? 

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Mar 28, 2023 Mar 28, 2023

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What happens if you physically disconnect the Wacom tablet (or if using bluetooth, disabling wireless connection)?

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I've just tried using the wacom disconnected/using bluetooth but the issue still occurs. 

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Oh finally...!
Of course, I feel sorry that you are experiencing this bug.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-discussions/cursor-disappears-when-use-brush-or-c...

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-bugs/p-brush-outline-circle-disappearing-when-wor...

 

I reported this on the bug tab but it was moved to the Discussions tab, and the thread posted by someone else was merged into an unrelated topic.

You should record and upload it like me. This is quite a bothersome bug.

In my experience, the version where this issue is definitely not happening was 24.0, but some users should have rolled back to 2022 or 2021.

 

I thought this was a single issue with Windows 10, Windows 11, and there were a lot of Windows 10 users reporting to other threads and Reddit as well.
However, it is very strange and unfortunate that even people who use Mac OS like you have this mouse cursor bug.

 

I hope Adobe staff will look into this well. At least your thread...

@CShubert  Could you ask the team to investigate this subject? 
https://www.reddit.com/r/photoshop/comments/thvjkd/brush_keeps_turning_into_mouse_cursor_when_i/
Please take a look... This video is the best example of the problem we're having.

I've reported this since version 24.0, but it doesn't seem to have been categorized as a bug.
And if you look at what I've replied to another thread, it's been posted a lot in communities like Reddit.
And some people are also going through this in previous versions of Photoshop.
Every time you use a brush or clone stamp, the brush cursor changes to an arrow, and it's very, very uncomfortable that you have to draw it again with your hands off to release it.

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Mar 29, 2023 Mar 29, 2023

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Hi @daveallsop could you share a video of what you are seeing for the team to look at?

 

It may help if we could see your Photoshop System Info. Launch Photoshop, and select Help >System Info...and copy/paste the text in a reply.  

 

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Apr 01, 2023 Apr 01, 2023

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Hello, here is the video and info :

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Enthusiast ,
Apr 01, 2023 Apr 01, 2023

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Perfect reproduce viedo. That's how Windows 10 bugs you, and it's shown with the default white arrow.
I hope this is fixed. Until this is fixed, all 2023 versions except 24.0 are versions that are difficult to apply to and use in real workfellows.

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Apr 03, 2023 Apr 03, 2023

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to follow up,

 

I think this has something to do with History. When I create a new layer, the error is very apparent but once the History list is all brush tool I think the problem goes away - until I create a new layer, or use another tool/or say, use Hue/Saturation - then the flickering cursor occurs again until the brush tool fills History. It's very annoying.

 

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Enthusiast ,
Apr 03, 2023 Apr 03, 2023

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@daveallsop a very interesting approach. I think that might be right.
Because I get that bug when I'm rubbing the brush or the Cloenstamp, and the moment I take it off, it's back to normal, so maybe something's going to happen while it's being recorded in one history. Of course, the biggest point is that you don't work for a long time enough to cover the entire screen with a single brush, but that bug occurs every short moment.

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@CShubert ,
did you get something out of the system dump above?

To provide you more info,
as far as I can tell the Photoshop bugs are both on Win and Mac, albeit manifest slightly differently. The root seems that Photoshop messes with the videodrivers - maybe the memory, maybe screws OpenGL.

I guess the assumption is that nobody uses anything else besides Adobe apps, while in reality for most people Adobe is just another tool running in parallel with others (3D progams in my case).

Anyway, Photoshop breaks videodrivers in a horrible way on each system. More specifically, On Mac, the mouse cursor behavior in OTHER programs is broken (cursors become incorrect, dont change at all, or change at an offset location). Grabbing window edges or separators becomes almost impossible (as if the edge is only 1 pixel thick... on a retina).

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@vlaTT 

It may help if we could see your Photoshop System Info. Launch Photoshop, and select Help >System Info...and copy/paste the text in a reply.  

 

Are you getting crashes or slow response time? If crashes, have you sent them to Adobe via the CrashReporter method?

 

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Hi @CShubert , thanks for the swift responce.


Yes, I've had one crash in 2 weeks, so it's hard to say crashes are common.
What bothers me is that Photoshop, after some usage, breaks the cursors in OTHER programs on MacOS. As I've described above. And if the cursors dont behave correctly it's really hard to work.

 

Please find attached PS info.

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Thank you for the update and sysinfo @vlaTT , we see you are not on Ps 25.0, have you tried the update and does it behave the same?  There is also a third party plugin:

SuperPNG 2.5, ©2002-2022 fnord - from the file “/Applications/Adobe Photoshop 2023/Plug-ins/SuperPNG.plugin/”

Have you tried using Ps without this, does the same issue persist?

 

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/plug-ins-photoshop-troubleshooting.html

 

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@vlaTT 

 

I'm not seeing any submitted crash reports from you in our system. If you haven't done so already, please submit all Crash Reports along with your email address: https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/submit-crash-reports.html That will help us diagnose the crash. 

 

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Hi @CShubert ,
Sure, I will update to the new version (the "old" is about a month old, and the cursor complaints have been festering in Adobe forum for quite longer).
Sure, I will test without the plugin, it's a reasonable ask (though as you know this is a file export plugin, nothing to do with cursors)

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Thank you @vlaTT, by eliminating all the variables we can, it is better to start from square one to see where the issue lies rather than working around multiple configs as we try to do the same.  We appreciate all the help and will do what we can to improve as we grow.

 

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Hi @CShubert ,

so after eleminating factors that you've suggested here is a recording how Photoshop breaks MacOS Ventura.
I hope this will make it to your engineers and some progress will be made.

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Thank you @vlaTT we will share with the team. We see:

Memory used by Photoshop: 55 %.  - It is suggested that you set this to 70%

 

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Hi @CShubert ,

1. if you care to open the previous info I've shared, you will find that the bug is present even with 70% memory usage (its obviously a completely unrelated problem)
2. if you care to read the info, you'll notice the MacBook Pro in question has 64 Gigs of RAM. Should I undestand from your advice that Photoshop does not work correctly with less than 70% of that? If this is the case, would you kindly announce it publicly, so people can benefit from the knowledge: "Photoshop under MacOS malfunctions with less then 44 GB of RAM available exlusively to it"


Thank you.

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The issue you described with the cursor flickering at the end of brushstrokes in Photoshop can be attributed to a few potential factors. Let's explore some troubleshooting steps to help you resolve this annoyance:

  1. Wacom Tablet Driver: Ensure that you have the latest Wacom tablet driver installed. Even though you mentioned having the latest driver, it's worth double-checking if any new updates have been released since your last installation.

  2. Photoshop Preferences: Navigate to Photoshop preferences and adjust the performance settings. You can try tweaking the Graphics Processor Settings. Sometimes, changing the drawing mode or disabling OpenGL might resolve cursor-related glitches.

  3. Ventura 13.2.1: Since you mentioned using Ventura 13.2.1, make sure that it is fully compatible with your version of Photoshop. Check for any updates or patches specific to the Ventura software that might address compatibility issues.

  4. PSD File Issues: The fact that the issue is more pronounced in new .psd files could suggest a file-specific problem. Try creating a new document with default settings to see if the problem persists. If not, you might need to investigate the specific settings or elements in your usual files causing the issue.

  5. Wacom Tablet Settings: Check your Wacom tablet settings, especially the pressure sensitivity and brush dynamics. Sometimes conflicts in these settings can cause unexpected behavior.

  6. Temporary Workaround: As a temporary solution, you might want to experiment with different brush types or sizes to see if the issue persists across all brushes. Additionally, restarting Photoshop or your computer may sometimes help alleviate temporary glitches.

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