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export or save as dng

New Here ,
Sep 05, 2020 Sep 05, 2020

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Why can't photoshop save an image to a DNG?  Since Adobe is promoting DNG, this should be a no-brainer for a person to be able to save an image from the program to a DNG.

 

 

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LEGEND , Sep 05, 2020 Sep 05, 2020

Photoshop does not support Camera Raw Sensor mosaic images.Photoshop Supports converted RGB images. Why should Photoshop be able to save images it does not support.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 05, 2020 Sep 05, 2020

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Photoshop does not support Camera Raw Sensor mosaic images.Photoshop Supports converted RGB images. Why should Photoshop be able to save images it does not support.

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New Here ,
Apr 19, 2022 Apr 19, 2022

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It seems Photoshop should support DNG files since iPhone 13 Pro Max has an option to take pics in Apple's ProRAW format.  My goal is to take pics with my iPhone in the format, import into Photoshop or Lightroom to edit, and then export to SmugMug for distribution in highest resolution possible.  How does Photoshop accommodate pics taken by iPhone?  I was hoping it would be compatible to accepting a 12 bit file so more information and dynamic range would be available when editing exposure and white balance.  If this capability is available in the latest versions Ps or Lr, please advise the technique I should use to import RAW format from my iPhone and saving them in Ps or Lr in this highest resolution format DNG taken with the latest iPhone with their RAW option selected.  If not possible, what is the highest resolution format that can be saved in Photoshop?  Thank you for helping me getting on track with having pics taken on my iPhone imported to either of the Adobe applications.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 19, 2022 Apr 19, 2022

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Photoshop can READ raw files. It can't write them, because writing them is a camera's job. Raw is not an interchange format, it's a way of getting pictures out of a camera and nothing else. The idea is that a raw file, even if edited is never changed - it is like a negative, you don't chop up your negative to crop a print.

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Dec 08, 2022 Dec 08, 2022

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That makes total sense.

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Community Expert ,
Apr 19, 2022 Apr 19, 2022

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Seems to me you're needlessly overcomplicating this.

 

ACR supports the iPhone 13 Pro from version 14.0, and Lightroom supports it from version 11.0.

 

That means the files can be opened directly in ACR 14.0 or later, or Lightroom 11.0 or later.

 

Frome there you can open a processed RGB file into Photoshop, but Photoshop itself can't process raw files. They have to go through ACR first.

 

I don't have an iPhone, but from what it says on this page Apple's ProRaw format is actually a DNG, and the files have a DNG extension already.

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html 

 

 

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Community Expert ,
Apr 19, 2022 Apr 19, 2022

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As stated by others, the ACR plug-in for Photoshop can read DNG files.

 

It can also save DNG files too (single or batch), without going into Photoshop:

 

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 28, 2022 Jul 28, 2022

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Hey! How did you get this winodw to pop up? When I open up the camera raw window it doesn't give me the "save as" option in the bottom left corner. Any help would be much appreciated!

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Community Expert ,
Jul 28, 2022 Jul 28, 2022

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@Zac5E7C wrote:

Hey! How did you get this winodw to pop up? When I open up the camera raw window it doesn't give me the "save as" option in the bottom left corner.


 

The Save button isn’t in the same group as the buttons at the bottom. You can save in several ways, by using:

  • The Save button in the top row 
  • The Save button that appears when you mouse over an image 
  • The Save command in the menu when you click the […] button that appears when you mouse over an image or right-click an image 

 

Camera Raw where to save.gif

 

The difference is that the Open button at the bottom sends the image to Photoshop and converts it into a Photoshop document, while the Save button/command exports a copy to storage in your choice of file format.

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Community Expert ,
Apr 19, 2022 Apr 19, 2022

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Photoshop only edits and saves rendered image data. At this point in time, saving to DNG or TIFF would be the same and in fact, DNG is a cousin of TIFF.

What would you gain by saving in DNG instead of TIFF from PS?

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"

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New Here ,
Nov 30, 2022 Nov 30, 2022

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Storage space? DNG files take less space than TIFF.

 

So, is it correct that Lightroom Mobile doesn't export as DNG? Reason I ask is that after I imported a Canon RAW file to Lightroom Mobile on my iPad Pro, and made the edits, I exported the file as DNG to iPad's Photo app/Camera Roll. Lightroom downloaded the original RAW file instead without edits. 

 

I'm confused, and I don't want to export as JPEG or TIFF.

 

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Community Expert ,
Nov 30, 2022 Nov 30, 2022

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Yes, Lightroom mobile can export as DNG, but you still confuse raw files and rendered files. If Lightroom mobile exports a raw file as DNG, then it will simply put the raw data in a 'DNG envelope' instead of its original envelope. It will not change the raw data by applying the edits to them. That is why you cannot compare exporting as DNG with exporting as TIFF or JPEG. TIFF and JPEG are rendered files, meaning that the pixels are changed so you see the edits. The raw data are like raw eggs (raw is not an abbreviation like TIFF, it really means raw/pure/unchanged), a TIFF is like the omelette you made from these eggs.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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New Here ,
Dec 04, 2022 Dec 04, 2022

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Thank you, so after I've made changes to RAW file, after importing it to Lightroom, is it best to export it out as JPEG if I want to save and archive the final picture as memory in my photo album library? Or, am I best to archive it as DNG please?

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Community Expert ,
Dec 05, 2022 Dec 05, 2022

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I don't know what your 'photo album library' is. If it is another app, then export as jpeg. The other app will not see edits that are only stored in metadata. If you use Lightroom as album, then you do not have to export at all.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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Community Expert ,
Dec 05, 2022 Dec 05, 2022

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…is it best to export it out as JPEG if I want to save and archive the final picture as memory in my photo album library? Or, am I best to archive it as DNG please?

By @Kandisa4u

 

Many people use both, because each has different advantages, and neither can do everything.

 

If all you want is a final photo that you will probably never edit again, and is easy to view and send to others, JPEG is good, as long as it was exported at pixel dimensions and a Quality level that are good enough for your future purposes.

 

If you want to keep a full quality original that you can continue editing at any time in the future, save the DNG. But DNG is not easy to view and send to others, because a DNG file can be larger than JPEG, and not as easy for others to view and print.

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Community Expert ,
Nov 30, 2022 Nov 30, 2022

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Storage space? DNG files take less space than TIFF.


By @Kandisa4u

 

You can store a TIFF or JPEG in a DNG; there is no different than the original, as DNG is simply a container for this data. You can convert (and store) a raw in DNG. Totally different data and size! 

DNG doesn't (always) equal raw. 

There are really few if any reasons to export a TIFF or JPEG as a DNG. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"

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