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December 18, 2014
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Hi.

Just bought a Dell XPS lapptop with screen resolution 3200x1800 and windows 8.1. After installing photoshop CS6 the program interface, menus and icons are extremly smal and almost impossible to see. That also happens in Bridge but not in Lightroom. Thankfull for your help. Best regards/janis lukas

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Correct answer JJMack

panohori19836 wrote:

Still I am working on a big 27 inch screen as well with a resolution 2560 x 1440 and I do not have this problem.

You need to get a better grasp on resolution. 2560x1440px and 3200x1800px are not resolution they are number of pixels your displays display. To get you display resolution you need to factor the display size.

Both of your displays have same 16:9 aspect ratio but have different different size and number of pixels.

You desktop 27" display displays 2560x1440 pixels that a density 108pixel per inch pixels are 1/109" x 1/109" there are 11,881 px per sq inch.

Your laptop 15.6 display displays 3200x1800 pixels that a density 235pixels per inch pixels are 1/235" x 1/235" there are 55,225 px per sq inch.

So the same of pixels displayed on you 27" display. Will displayed on your 13.6" displays in and area 1/5 the size that they displayed in on you 27" display.

Resolution is DPI Pixel density pixel size. Pixels have no size till there is a resolution involved. Display are run at one DPI resolution they do not render image at the resolution set into the image file. They only display one size pixel usually their native pixel size. So an image's pixels are displayed at the displays DPI resolution and will not be the same size on all displays.

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Rufous03

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Well, it might be in a perfect world, but Adobe did try to install something that totallydestroyed my CS6!

JJMack

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Adobe has not changed CS6 is several years what year was your CS6 totallydestroyed in?

JJMack

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wpnussbaumer

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A few weeks ago after they did some updates to CC 2018

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brendanp92667016

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You didn't answer the question there, chief - try to stay with us. All that she wants is to make her interface legible by making the font appear bigger. "I don't know" would be an honest answer.

gener7

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A post with a green bubble means the one who first asked the question has considered it answered and nothing further is needed.

From then on it is a reference and should not be for followup questions by others with different software. It just won't get much attention.

Open a new post for your issue. Read the forum tips on how to best ask a question so it gets results.

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ricolson777

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Hi,

Why does Lightroom look just fine on hi-res screen but not Bridge? Adobe fixed the display from earlier versions of LR to where it looks Great on LR 6. Why can't they apply the same settings to Bridge and others? Don't tell me all about screen resolutions. This has been fixed in Lightroom and it can be fixed in other Adobe products as well.

Yes, I have a newer small portable laptop that has a 3200x1800 Display. I take this with me so I can work on the road. About 95% of the programs look fine. Some are still catching up.

Thanks,

Rick

keithconover

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I have a Lenovo Yoga 3 Pro with a similar high-resolution screen. There apparently is a version of Bridge (CC 2014) that is available for Macs that allows scaling of the interface so it is useful. However, this version is apparently not available for PCs, and this is indeed documented in the Adobe help for Bridge. My PC version of Bridge says CC, and in the Creative Cloud app, there is no option to install CC 2014. Therefore, I am assuming that this problem is fixed for Macs but not for PCs. And since my laptop, despite the high resolution, has a small screen, Bridge is completely unusable on my laptop. I cannot read any of the text in the interface without a magnifying glass.

If I am incorrect, I would appreciate hearing about it.

And if there is a way to scale the interface to 200% on a PC, I would also like to hear about it.

But what I really want to hear about is a new version of Bridge for the PC that fixes the interface problem as Adobe has for Photoshop, Illustrator, and InDesign, all of which work perfectly on my Yoga 3 Pro laptop.

Thank you.

JJMack

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Ideally For a Image editor you want a high resolution display so you can edit your images at a high resolution near or actual print quality. And the editor should have a UI that is easy to see and use. That is what CC 2014 2x UI is all about. You can can have an OS like Windows scale your display image effectively run you display at a lower resolution so that things display larger. Scaling the display to 1/2 resolution is easy for its and even multiplayer 2x A 200DPI display would be like a 100DPI display with 1/4 the number of pixels. Scaling the display defeats the reason to have a high resolution display. However it may work well for a Application like the bridge. The the bridge only displays previews and thumbnails. It is not what you want for an image editor like Photoshop. You want to be able to use the high resolution for editing.

As I wrote Windows can scale the system display for application to lower resolutions. Application have that option. Adobe application do not the have windows scale the display so their Applications can take advantage of all the pixels and resolution the display has to offer. However Only Photoshop has a option to scale its UI 2x.

It is possible to have Windows scale the display for an Adobe Application by making a registry update and adding an external manifest file for applications yo want Windows to scale.

I can show you the difference between Adobe CC 2x UI and Windows scaling. CC 2014 2x UI works well on 4K displays that have high resolution. However it does not work well on a Surface Pro 3 Display that has a 216PPI resolution for the display only has 2160 x 1440 Pixels Scaling the UI 2x effectively make the display look like a 108 PPI display with 1080x720 pixels. Which doe not meet Photoshop 1024x768 requirement. Photoshop UI just doesn't fit.

Windows Scaling for the Surface Pro 3 has 4 preset dor scaling the display 150% being the default for the surface pro 3

Microsoft Preset Display scaling

100% 2160x1440 216 PPI

125% 1728x1152 173 PPI

150% 1440x960 144 PPI SP3 Default setting

200% 1080x720 108 PPI

The 150% scaling works well for Photoshop UI however it alsi scala Photoshop image window where CC 2014 2C UI does not. Windows scaling can also be use on other versions of Photoshop and bridge etc. It would be helpful if Photoshop also offered a 1.25x and 1.5x UI. Here are some screen captures I did on my Surface Pro 3 the shows the difference between 2x UI and Display scaling. CC 2014 Adobe scaling vs Windows scaling.

JJMack

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It woul be better if Adobe offered other scal options not just 1x UI and 2x UI Here is an approximation of aladd a 1.25x ans 1.5x option This faceked Screen capture dis bor scal the Image windows rulers ans scroll bars like the would actually be I just overlayed the 2xUI image window in the the jpeg.

JJMack

Community Expert

Smal they are for the pixels are small on your small high resolution LCD attach a Large Desktop Display with the same number of pixels these pixels will be larger and easier for you to seem like you have been use to. CC 2014 has and option to increase the number of pixels used for Photoshop UI on you display. It only make scene to use this option when you have a display with a high DPI resolution, On a Desktop display the UI would be too large. Only the OLD 2001 IBM 22.2" 4K T221 Desktop display has a 204 DPI resolution. The new crop of 4K desktop displays are larger and have a lower DPI resolution I think 28" and larger so the UI should be usable on these lower resolution 4K displays.

JJMack

gener7

Community Expert

Photoshop CS6 came out when 3200x1800 screen resolution didn't exist on small laptop screens. There is no adjustments in CS6 to scale up to this resolution.

You must have installed Lightroom 5 which is more up to date and would make that adjustment.

You will have to set your display resolution to 1366 x 768 in order to be able to work with CS6 on your laptop and as JJ pointed out use a large external monitor if you need to use the 3200 x 1800 in Photoshop. Or go to the Photography Plan (10 monthly) to get Photoshop CC 2014 and the 200% UI increase.

Gene

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panohori19836Author

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Thanks Gene.

I instaled a trial version of CC and could increase by 200% UI. Anyweay that looks much better now, thanks. Still having the same problem on Bridge for CC. I can not find the instruktion to increase the size @200%

Any tips on that?

Regards/janis lukas

gener7

Community Expert

Install Photoshop CC 2014 not CC, then go to Edit > Preferences > Experimental > UI 200% Windows only.

Gene

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