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February 23, 2020
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How to keep same effect when converting 32 bits TIF to 8 bits PNG?

  • February 23, 2020
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Hi , I have a TIF image which is 32 bits like this , i want to convert it to 8 bits PNG formation for further usage

 

However , when i convert it to 8 bits , it turn out like this , it has a darker shadow effect

i know this kind of conversion will change the image effect ,but is there any way to keep same effect though with bits conversion?

 

Thanks if you have any ideas !

Correct answer davescm

The change above involves moving from a 32 bit floating point linear gamma to an 8 bit integer non linear gamma colour space. To minimise the visible on screen impact - flatten all layers first, then use the Exposure and Gamma method as shown by Stephen.

 

You have to accept though that no display currently made can include the full range of the 32 bit float linear image, so when working in 32 bit you are not seeing the full range of the image on screen. That is why you have a preview exposure control at the bottom left of the window when working in 32 bit linear so you can select which part of the dynamic range is visible on screen while you work on it.

Controls to convert from 32 bit to an 8bit/16 bit gamma space are designed to give you choices as to what will be captured in the final 8 bit/16 bit image, and what will be discarded. Conversions between 16 bit and 8 bit are much simpler as they both have the same range, just divided into a different number of steps.

 

Dave

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davescm
Community Expert
davescmCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
August 7, 2022

The change above involves moving from a 32 bit floating point linear gamma to an 8 bit integer non linear gamma colour space. To minimise the visible on screen impact - flatten all layers first, then use the Exposure and Gamma method as shown by Stephen.

 

You have to accept though that no display currently made can include the full range of the 32 bit float linear image, so when working in 32 bit you are not seeing the full range of the image on screen. That is why you have a preview exposure control at the bottom left of the window when working in 32 bit linear so you can select which part of the dynamic range is visible on screen while you work on it.

Controls to convert from 32 bit to an 8bit/16 bit gamma space are designed to give you choices as to what will be captured in the final 8 bit/16 bit image, and what will be discarded. Conversions between 16 bit and 8 bit are much simpler as they both have the same range, just divided into a different number of steps.

 

Dave

jimm7497115
Inspiring
August 7, 2022

I'm afraid I stopped reading at 'You have to accept....' The OP wanted the same results in 8 bit as we see in 32 bit, I don't think that is unreasonable. I wanted the same. I've just offered a solution. What's the problem? It's not any kind of moral or phylosophical issue nor was the OP's or my question a judgement or attack. I don't understand what it is 'I have to accept...' and fancly don't care. I get there are lots of choices and that is lovely. It realy is. Very nice. I just wanted the same or almost the same 8bit as 32 bit. 

D Fosse
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 7, 2022

Excellent explanation, Dave.

 

Understanding how things actually work always beats "press this button".

Stephen Marsh
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 23, 2020

Use the following settings –

Method: Exposure & Gamma

Exposure: 0.00

Gamma:1.00

Participant
February 23, 2020

Well, it doesn't work , the setting paramters are  just what you are saying 

jimm7497115
Inspiring
August 7, 2022

Hi, yeah, I'm having the same issue. I've used photoshop for years I've had it on this computer for 2 years and I could just merge the 32 bit without any problems. Suddenly something messed up on my computer and all my custom settings have gone and when I merge I'm presented with a load of settings that I'm not used to. I know I used to just convert and my final jpg image would look really close to the 32bit. I've had the settings set for so long I just don't remember the majority of them. I've used photoshop since PS5

Mylenium
Legend
February 23, 2020

The only way to ensure proper HDR to LDR conversion is to instate a suitable color management that accounts for displaying HDR images correctly within the limited gamut of your monitor to begin with. That's pretty much all you need to know. You will need to enable proofing even in RGB mode, calibrate your monitor or at the very least pick a suitable factory monitor profile and neutral setting. Or in simple words: The issue is not the conversion, the issue is your monitor displaying an incorrect version of your 32bit image due to those things not being established.

 

Mylenium

Participant
February 24, 2020

Is there any concrete setting to follow?or any detiled referenece?