I can not unuse swirl of a font

[Muhammed5E44]

Hi, I have installed some fonts which has swirl features. I want to use swirls at the beginning and end of the text but even when I select a charachter from Glyphs with no swirl, it gives me the character with a swirl. So the text ends up looking like a mess. How can I fix this? I am using Photoshop 2022 on MacOS.

[c.pfaffenbichler]

Could you please post screenshots with the pertinent Panels (Toolbar, Layers, Character, Glyphs, Options Bar, …) visible? 

[jane-e]

@Muhammed5E44 

It could be that Swash is turned on in OpenType. 

Can you select some of the text with the Type tool and show the Character panel (Window menu). Click the panel menu in the upper right and show the options for OpenType.

Jane

[Muhammed5E44]

Thanks for answering. Right after I posted the topic somehow it got fixed and then it happened again. I don't know if I click something that I'm not supoosed to.

[Muhammed5E44]

I also tried another font with Swash feature turned on/off, didn't help

[c.pfaffenbichler]

If it’s an Adobe font can you provide the file? 

[jane-e]

@Muhammed5E44 

Can you include some text that is selected with this type of screen shot?

Jane

[melissapiccone]

I don't see a regular non swashy version of the letter l - your screenshot only shows the swashy version. Where did you download it from? There is a free version and a paid version online - do you have the full paid version? It's very possible you have a free version and are limited to the characters in the free version. 

[Muhammed5E44]

I checked that option and restarted Photoshop. I didn't get the onscreen alternatives when I select the text (do I need to press a button to pop that up?) but like I said in the reply to Melissa, it gives me swashy letter when I click a non swashy letter from Glyphs.

[c.pfaffenbichler]

Can you provide a file that displays the problem with an Adobe font so others can test it? 

https://fonts.adobe.com

[c.pfaffenbichler]

When you check »Enable type layer glyph alternates« and resart Photoshop do you get the onscreen glyp alternatives? 

[Muhammed5E44]

I think I got it from Etsy, I paid for it. There is non swashy letters and you can see on the screenshot when I double click the non swashy letter l, it gives me swashy l. And this problem applies to all fonts that have swash letters.

[c.pfaffenbichler]

Edit: I had missed the last reply. 

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/glyph-panel.html

[Muhammed5E44]

I reinstalled Photoshop today and I thought it solved the problem. I just double clicked one of the letters with the swirls in the Glyphs panel and I'm stuck with the swirls again.

[ktaki]

@Muhammed5E44 Thank you for contacting me. If on-canvas alterante glyphs feature does not work for you, try this from Glyphs panel.

 

[ktaki]

For just in case you wonder how "til" in "raustila" can appear like it in their logo, here you can find the glyph.

 

[ktaki]

@Muhammed5E44 You wrote:

>>  When I double click any letter from a sytlistic set, what I type from my keyboard will follow that style. The thing is when you go "Basic Latin and Latin 1", and select for example letter r, that gives the letter r from the "Stylistic Alternatives" letters.

In order to control what you type from keyboard rather than directly selecting glyphs from Glyphs panel, there are two controls you need to pay attention, "Stylistic alternates" and "Stylistic sets." Here I did some experiments with Raustila font. Note that the behavior may be different for other fonts with stylistic alternates. You need to try it out how the font you are using behaves by setting these controls.

The "Stylistic alternates" and "Stylistic sets" controls are found in the Type Options section of Type Layer Properties panel. Select a type layer in Layers panel, and open the properties panel. Scroll down to Type Options section.

Below is the result of my experiments. As you can see here, in order to type glyphs in default "Basic Latin and Latin 1", Stylistic alternates must be off and none of the stylistic alternates is selected. If you see glyphs from stylistic alternates as you type, check the both controls. Notice that when Stylistic alternates is On, the glyphs from the Stylistic set 1 appears regardless of the stylistic settings selected.

Again, this behavior may or may not be true for other fonts. Try it with your favorite fonts, and find out how those controls work.

[Muhammed5E44]

Thank you for your response. So the Character menu is a bit different on me. I don't have the Stylistic Sets button, but I do have a dropdown menu. With stylistics alternatives off, I get the same results with you using Stylistic Set 1 through 5. But to achieve the "no stylistic set selected" of yours, I selected "Basic Latin and Latin 1" because that gives the "correct" letters. So what happens when I double click a letter from "Basic Latin and Latin 1" is that  it gives me letters from the last Stylistic Set I selected. I hope what I meant was clear. I am not able to get the top right style from the image you sent and that's what I want to achieve.

[ktaki · Accepted solution]

The Stylistic sets control is not in Character panel. Open Properties panel and find the icon. (See the panel picture I posted.) Click on it to open the pop-up menu. Make sure none of the stylistic sets is selected. Deselect it if any.

[Muhammed5E44]

That's it, I was looking at the wrong place. Thank you so much