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Is Adobe Gamma not installed with CS3?

New Here ,
Apr 17, 2007 Apr 17, 2007

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It is not in the control panel on a clean CS3 install. Has Adobe stopped including Adobe Gamma in the CS3 installations?

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Apr 17, 2007 Apr 17, 2007

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yikes! i hope it's there!

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Explorer ,
Apr 17, 2007 Apr 17, 2007

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Remember that you have to view CP in Classic Mode. Also (wild guess) you may need to have administrative rights.

Rob

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New Here ,
Apr 17, 2007 Apr 17, 2007

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Control Panel is in Classic Mode already, it just isn't there anymore.

It was there when I had CS2 installed and worked normally. Uninstalled CS2 for clean CS3 install - now there is no Adobe Gamma?

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Explorer ,
Apr 17, 2007 Apr 17, 2007

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I don't know. My copy of Ps CS3 will be in the local store here by April the 30th.

Apart from that, I switched to a hardware calibrator (GMB Eye-1) long ago, and they'll have to pull it from my cold, dead hand.

Rob

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New Here ,
Apr 17, 2007 Apr 17, 2007

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I use Eye-One Display 2 at my office for calibrating and profiling LCD monitors, but I use Adobe Gamma on the road to 'ballpark' the projectors I use for speaking events.
I really need my Adobe Gamma!

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Explorer ,
Apr 17, 2007 Apr 17, 2007

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>I really need my Adobe Gamma!

Try to find a way to use the one from the previous version. Maybe install that again.

Versions of Ps install in separate folders, and up to now, could all be launched at will.

Rob

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New Here ,
Apr 17, 2007 Apr 17, 2007

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Give a look see in Programs-->Common Files--> Calibration-->Adobe Gamma. Maybe it's there and for some reason didn't make it to Control Panel.

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Explorer ,
Apr 17, 2007 Apr 17, 2007

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Good point, Andrew!

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New Here ,
Apr 17, 2007 Apr 17, 2007

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No, it is not there either.
Of course on my CS2 computer, it is there and in the Control Panel.

I'm guessing that Adobe is finished with Adobe Gamma and this is how we all find out.

If I manually add the Calibration files to the CS3 computer, Adobe gamma will load and work, but it will not install the loader for the startup menu. ?

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Apr 17, 2007 Apr 17, 2007

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It would make some sense to have removed AdobeGamma as it isn't suitable
for LCD Monitors which are by far the most common now.

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New Here ,
Apr 24, 2007 Apr 24, 2007

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If you are running Vista look in here:
c: \ program files \ common files \ control panels
there you will find *adobe gamma.cpl*
copy this to your windows \ system32 folder and it will appear in you control panels list.

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New Here ,
Apr 24, 2007 Apr 24, 2007

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>If you are running Vista look in here:
>c: \ program files \ common files \ control panels
>there you will find *adobe gamma.cpl*
Not there on my Vista Ultimate machine with CS3. It *was* there when I had CS2
installed, though.
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Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com

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New Here ,
Apr 24, 2007 Apr 24, 2007

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No question, I can (and did) manually add Adobe Gamma, but my question was - has Adobe stopped installing Adobe Gamma with the release of Photoshop CS3?

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Guest
Apr 24, 2007 Apr 24, 2007

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> It would make some sense to have removed Adobe Gamma as it isn't suitable for LCD Monitors which are by far the most common now.

Well that doesn't make sense to me.

Firstly there are still CRTs out there, and secondly Adobe Gamma does work on some LCDs.

Having said that, it is pretty ancient but, if that were the reason to remove it, it should be replaced.

Maybe a bit more Adobe cost cutting, to go in line with their price increases. :(

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Apr 24, 2007 Apr 24, 2007

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>Maybe a bit more Adobe cost cutting, to go in line with their price increases

surely not collusion with the calibration manufacturers... :)

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Contributor ,
Apr 24, 2007 Apr 24, 2007

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Adobe Gamma is no longer distributed with Photoshop. Many experts argue that visual 'calibration' doesnt really exist and give a false sense of security (every person sees slightly different etc), plus the fact that it is not suitable for LCD monitors.

You are expected to buy a hardware calibrator. Like it or not.

Personally, I'd have to say that Adobe Gamma was better than nothing. Hardware calibrators are not cheap.

If you are an amateur, use a CRT monitor, and dont want to spend money on a hardware calibrator, try QuickGamma (I have no experience with this, but it comes recommended by others).

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Enthusiast ,
Apr 24, 2007 Apr 24, 2007

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Mathias,

Though 100-200 euros can pay more than a pair of beers anywhere, I don't think that's way too expensive for a professional tool like Photoshop.

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Apr 24, 2007 Apr 24, 2007

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I dont think so either, but factor in the number of Photoshop users, and how many of them are actually going to buy a hardware calibrator. Are we better or worse off as a whole?

I dont know.

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Enthusiast ,
Apr 24, 2007 Apr 24, 2007

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I understand what you mean: Better Adobe Gamma than nothing. But, if I follow your reasoning (and I think I do), I'd hope that we would be better off in a general sense if general users would start thinking more appropriatedly about what is colour reproduction. That means no eyeball, use a calibration device, use a proper illumination, etc...

Hyperoptimistic, I know ;)

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Apr 24, 2007 Apr 24, 2007

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so not only are they charging us more (even for the standard version, don't get me started about the extortion edition!) but now we don't have imageready (buy flash!) and we don't have a calibrator (buy external). jeez louise!

maybe they're developing adobe gamma into a for pay application... wouldn't suprise me.

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Contributor ,
Apr 24, 2007 Apr 24, 2007

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Dave,

I think you are missing the point. Software calibration is not calibration. Really, it isn't. Now we just need to educate the whole user base save for the top pros on this.

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Enthusiast ,
Apr 24, 2007 Apr 24, 2007

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Microsoft rulez the World
Adobe sees it for you
X-Rite calibrates that vision.

Surrender, Dave. Resistence is futile!

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New Here ,
Apr 24, 2007 Apr 24, 2007

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well in answer to the original quesion: NO, Adobe still distributes AdobeGamma with CS3. I told you how to find it. It's just not installed (for whatever reason, I thought it mught be due to Vista)

And whats this crap about gamma correction NOT working on LCD's? what rock have you been living under?. I bounce from office to office doing temp contracts, and first thing I do is calibrate everyone's monitors using Adobe Gamma, you wouldnt believe the results. If you can more closely match the colour onscreen to the printed output then there's bugger-all guess work involved.
Sure most LCD's dont have the rich black of a CRT, but every monitor can benefit from some gamma correction and colour adjustment. Maybe you just have no idea how to use the program...

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Apr 24, 2007 Apr 24, 2007

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That's really strange - I did a fresh install of Vista (formatted too) and only installed CS3. the file was there.

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