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January 31, 2024
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Lets talk about how laptops just dont cut it with todays Photoshop requirements

  • January 31, 2024
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I bought  Lenovo Legion 7i laptop with i9 and 32GB of fast ram, top of the line gaming, fastest processor, fast ram. But when I do my standard phoshop tests like "time to open" or "speed_test.atn" it is way slow, twice as slow as my 2 year old desktop with older components.  

 

Why is that?  I think its becasue of heat, that they cant put components that can use the high transfer rate and processing power of photoshop without creating too much heat. 

 

And there is no way to tell how a laptop is put together, or how exactly the companents perform with photoshiop, without buying it.  The numbers/specs mean nothng.

 

Anybody have a laptop that opens photoshop in 5 seconds?

 

thank you . . .

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Conrad_C
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February 1, 2024

How fast an application opens is rarely a great measure of anything. What it probably will measure the most is the speed of storage, because application startup is mostly about pre-loading code and assets, and pre-caching scratch files and anticipated data into RAM. For an application such as Photoshop where significant portions of startup involve the Home screen and verification of licensing and availability of online services such as Adobe Fonts, Creative Cloud Libraries, and Cloud Documents, startup time may also be affected by the responsiveness of your Internet connection.

 

If you’re concerned about Photoshop performance in general, and trying to choose a system, it seems like a much better idea to run the PugetBench Photoshop benchmark test, and then compare your results against their list of the other systems that have submitted results. What score does your system get?

 

Another thing about application start time is that, at least on the Mac, there are two startup times: 

  • Time to start the first time after computer restart. 
  • Time to start every subsequent instance after the first time after computer restart. 

 

The reason for this is that after computer restart, all caches are thrown out, so a starting application must build them all from nothing. If you exit and then start that application again during the same system session, the second and subsequent times it should start much faster, because the system still holds the caches.

 

You talked about heat, but if you’re talking about app startup, that takes so few seconds that on any modern system, there should not be time for heat to build up to the point that the processor hits its critical temperature and throttles.

 

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Anybody have a laptop that opens photoshop in 5 seconds?

By @RAB123

 

Yes, my two-year-old MacBook Pro opens Photoshop in 5 seconds…if it isn’t the first time starting Photoshop since the last system restart. If the Mac was restarted, starting Photoshop takes a few seconds longer.

RAB123Author
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February 1, 2024

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Another thing about application start time is that, at least on the Mac, there are two startup times: 

  • Time to start the first time after computer restart. 
  • Time to start every subsequent instance after the first time after computer restart. "
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same on PC. 

For photoshop opening time, how is it not an accurate measure of the computers hardware? Photoshop is the same code on all machines, the only difference is the speed of the hardware. And yes, I mean the second time. 

D Fosse
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February 1, 2024

You have to keep in mind that a major portion of the startup time is loading from your user account - that is, all your settings, presets, brushes, patterns, all that stuff. When Photoshop starts up, all this is read from disk, unpacked and processed and loaded into memory. We see people having wildly different startup idle memory usage, and this is why. It will also cause differences in startup time even on identical hardware.

 

Many years ago (CS2-CS3) there was an effort to reduce startup time because it was a common complaint. They managed to cut it drastically, but I presume just by postponing loading many components. It was down to a second or two, so people were happy. It's a bit longer now.

D Fosse
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 31, 2024

The main reason is, as you say, cooling. There's no way to effectively cool a laptop, so components are throttled down to avoid meltdown.

 

You might ask why they put these components in there when they can't run at full speed - but it's a great sales argument! Customers will take it at face value.

 

Another thing is vendor modifications to the operating system and drivers. This is something they do to put their own stamp on the product. They want you to buy a Dell/hp/Acer/etc - not a "Windows" laptop. These modifications are usually not done with high-performance advanced applications in mind, but to satisfy the "average" consumer and/or gamer.

 

All these extra layers between Photoshop and the OS/drivers is what causes most problems.

RAB123Author
Inspiring
January 31, 2024

I had previously purchased and returned a Lenovo ThinkPad with all the bells and whistles, 32 GB of RAM i9 processor, and it was surprisingly fast twice as fast as the Legion, and almost as fast as my desktop. 

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadp/thinkpad-p16-gen-2-(16-inch-intel)/len101t0069?selectModel=21FA0025US