Liquify filter on smart objects don't hold when changing the smart object itself Photoshop v22.1

[Peter Flynn RN]

I've found an issue with the more recent versions of Photoshop (likely since the update to the smart filter features they added). Essentially, when you liquify a Smart Object (it has a transparent background, I'm not sure if that matters) and then make any changes inside that smart object, your Liquify looks like it's still active in the Layer palette, but all the liquifying you did is gone. It doesn't matter what you do to the objects within the smart object, as soon as you save the smart object and go back to the original document where the liquifying filter was applied, all the liquifying is gone. This is super frustrating to say the least as it's hard to work in a non destructive way without smart objects. I'm using Photoshop for Windows 10 home edition. I swear this worked in even the first version of Photoshop 2021 when it came out, but something changed.

[Antonín Mika]

Same problem, very frustrating because i make mockups....

[brdcphoto]

Same problems here.  This is already the case for a couple of versions of photoshop and this is still not solved.  Very frustrating!

[Orange27950958sztf]

same here for more than 10 years and no one is able to fix it 😞

[goutos19]

Having the same problem, why has this not been fixed! It's been over 3 years. 

[Trevor.Dennis]

@Peter Flynn RN @Orange27950958sztf @brdcphoto @brdcphoto 

Are you guys still seeing this?
Are you all using Windows?

Does it only happen with an object on a transparent background?

Is it the same with release and beta versions?

Any clues that might tie it down, or is this happening with everyone and all versions?

[c.pfaffenbichler]

I am not experiencing this issue, so could you please post screenshots with the pertinent Panels (Toolbar, Layers, Options Bar, …) visible to illustrate the actual problem? 

Can you provide a sample file with the Smart Filter applied to an effected SO? 

[goutos19]

Hi, thanks for responding. Here is a link to the files (it's too big to attach).

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/uluzoee29tjc2tsxxdmi2/AHicV-KMPgaeDCiM_qjmNXk?rlkey=xmo55h7x5omzafxts...

In the PSD the linked SO is broken. When you relink it to the PNG in the folder "file for relink", the liquify smart filter that was applied to it goes away. Any help is much appreciated

[goutos19]

screenshots showing before and after relink

[c.pfaffenbichler]

Did you move or transform the SO after originally applying the Liquify? 

[goutos19]

If you mean move the image that's in the linked file, no, it's in the exact same location.

If you mean move the file to another folder (the reason the link is broken), yes!

[kevin stohlmeyer]

@goutos19 I can't replicate the issue. Here is my workflow:

1. opened your file with the linked object in place.

2. Edited the smart object Liquify filter (gave him a belly).

 

3. Duplicated your linked file and saved as a new version with color (leg2.png).

4. Relinked to file using the right-click on the layer to replace with new file. (You could also use "Replace Contents")

 

  

5. Liquify results held.

 

 

[goutos19]

Thanks for looking into this. 

I see that the new liquify that you applied to the belly is staying there. But, my original liquify changes are missing in all of your images including the first one. My original liquify is a subtle change to the leg, circled in red in my screenshots. 

Thanks!

[c.pfaffenbichler]

Did you change the image’s pixel dimensions in any way? 

[kevin stohlmeyer]

@goutos19 its not in the file you sent so its not saved with it in place. I opened the Liquify filter with the mesh on and its clean. Try doing this again using the steps I outlined.

[goutos19]

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