P: Photoshop 22.4 - Missing Save as formats from the menu

[Samuel5DFB]

I just updated to the mentioned version and the formats dropdown list only shows 3 formats: Photoshop (*.PSD;*.PDD;*.PSDT), *.PSB and TIFF (*.TIF;*.TIFF).

[Proative Technology]

Esta acontecendo a mesma coisa com o meu para windows. Não tem mais opções como na versão anterior.

[Dearborn2020]

Could you at least make a it a setting to NOT put the word "COPY" in the file name?  Please Please Please?

[D Fosse]

That's the core of the whole issue. Apple removed the API that allowed Photoshop to strip "-copy" from the filename. With the new API, Photoshop is forced to finalize the filename before entering the Save dialog. That filename has to contain "-copy", because it is a copy. If it wasn't a copy, your original file would have to be overwritten as a flat 8 bit file to satisfy the jpeg specification.

And no, Photoshop can't just write its own filename into the dialog. You can do that, an application cannot, not on its own. This is basic IT security.

This is not a bug or mistake, but a deliberate security policy from Apple. Microsoft may well follow suit and adopt the same policy.

[dougsooley]

It is just removed by moderator stupid [removed by moderator]. It adds an extra step into the workflow and makes everything more difficult. It it a terrible idea....just terrible. NOT A FAN!

[TheDigitalDog]

No one forced you to upgrade; roll back to an older verson. 

And watch your language around here! This is a user to user forum, your angry rants and language are not appropriate and can only get you kicked off the forums. 

[xodin49]

OK so Apple needs the word "copy" included? But I am a PC user and I when I downloaded Adobe CC I had to indicate my sustem was a PC and not MAC.  I am not a computer person but it appears there are two systems, one which operates on a MAC and another that operates on a PC.  Please explain to me in simple terms why my PC is being affected by a MAC change.

[TheDigitalDog]

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@xodin49 wrote:

OK so Apple needs the word "copy" included? But I am a PC user and I when I downloaded Adobe CC I had to indicate my sustem was a PC and not MAC.  I am not a computer person but it appears there are two systems, one which operates on a MAC and another that operates on a PC.  Please explain to me in simple terms why my PC is being affected by a MAC change.

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It's been explained multiple times; parity.

[jane-e]

Please explain to me in simple terms why my PC is being affected by a MAC change.

By @xodin49

Platform parity has always been important in Photoshop, for the sake of actions, plugins, tutorials, etc. When Apple or Microsoft changes their OS, Photoshop changes on both platforms.

~ Jane

[MKSA]

Exactly

[bzubrick]

Adobe,

What is the point of "Save As" now? Why would I want to "Save As" a PSD that is already a PSD? Also, Why are you adding "copy" to the filename. Why did you remove the file formats from "Save As"? This might be the dumbest update I have ever seen. 

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

See the following post:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/whats-new/2021-4.html#save-a-copy 

This was due to an Apple OS API change that forced Adobe to make significant changes to the Save and Save As functions. They made it a consistent change on Windows to match.

[Albert Verdugo]

Ok the do not be consistent. let Apple users keep they wonderful OS as they want, but the majority of us. just keep the save as as always. as a +15 years using PS in PC it is not working for me when you make things like this

[TheDigitalDog]

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@Albert Verdugo wrote:

Ok the do not be consistent. let Apple users keep they wonderful OS as they want, but the majority of us. just keep the save as as always. as a +15 years using PS in PC it is not working for me when you make things like this

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Not going to happen. 

As for +15 years, some of us were running Photoshop as far back as 1990, when there wasn't a Windows version. 

[charlesg60462479]

I have been using PS for over 20 years and the new changes they made in regards to Save as Copy, and Replacing not replacing, become very frustrating and time consuming.

[Martin5D24]

Absolutely agree ! My workflow is now much slower ... When I need PSD and JPG I have to use save as ... then remove that stupid suffix "edited" than I have to export as JPG ... when I am saving as copy then it adds two suffixes editend and copy .... Hate that ! 

[TheDigitalDog]

First, This is a user to user support forum. To provide feedback and suggestions about what you desire from Adobe, you should go here and comment after selecting the appropriate product:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/categories/products/5f5f2090785c1f1e6cc40864

Second, no one forced anyone to update either their OS or version of Photoshop. You hate it? Do something about it; ranting to other users here is pointless.

[PrintBerry Ltd]

omg calm down xD

[Lumigraphics]

Ah yes another clueless comment. "Apple's OS was inadequate or faulty"

Um, how about no. Apple made a security change that meant Adobe's kludge of Save As no longer worked.

Adobe probably never should have implemented their "clever" Save As. It was bound to break eventually.

[charlesg60462479]

I also very much dislike this change in the latest Photoshop! Useless and confusing!... Go back to "Normal"!

[loganz85299139]

I retouh professionally and when I would save a file to be sent to a client, I used to just hit Shift-Command-S and save the file into a 'Finals' folder without layers. This way the name stays the same but its also a different file in a different location. Now I have to remember to hit "Save As Copy" before I select the 'Finals' folder and manually remove "copy" from the file name. Why make this process more convoluted? Why try to fix a problem that never existed? Stupid, Adobe. Stupid. 

[D Fosse]

Apple removed the API that allowed Photoshop to strip "-copy" from the filename. With the new API, Photoshop is forced to finalize the filename before entering the Save dialog. That filename has to contain "-copy", because it is a copy. If it wasn't a copy, your original file would have to be overwritten as a flat 8 bit file to satisfy the jpeg specification.

This is not a bug or mistake, but a deliberate security policy from Apple. Adobe didn't do this because they wanted to, they did it because they had to. The old way wouldn't work anymore.

[JJMack]

I do not agree Adobe has done worst in the past. This is not the first time Adobe has changes all users work flows and most likely will not be the last time Adobe changes all users work flows.

For example in 22.0 Adobe broke the line tool a few updates later Adobe provided a line tool that is not as good as the line tool in Photoshop version prior to Photoshop 2021.   The there was the reversal if the Transform tool.  ESC commit text not cancel text change.  I think we can count on Adobe changing our work flows in the future.

[D Fosse]

You do not agree that Apple changed the API. OK, disagreement duly noted.

[JJMack]

No I agree that Adobe change  Photoshop Save As operation and we can work with the change. For Adobe added Save a Copy.  On Windows  I can still work with Document saveAs via photoshop scripting.  The Change adobe made did not brake  my Photoshop scripts.  The change may have changes some Batch actions into none batch able actions.   Two negative.  Changed  work flow and changed action operation.  Anything Apple changes is not on my PC. There are no Apple API on my machine it a PC...

[Augusto5FF4]

I am opening a photo in JPG and when I am going to close it, it won't let me save it in JPG, it saves it in .psd and it doesn't give me the jpg option. What can I fix this situation?