Photoshop CS4 is a disaster

[_ProArtist_]

I'm am just at a loss of words.

What a mess. It could not be any slower. What were you thinking Adobe?

You ripped apart the code just to add GPU support for what? To provide worse performance?

Make sure you DL the demo first... CS4 is a disaster.

The latest hardware cant even run it smoothly... Dont tell me its graphic drivers.

[Guest]

and I repeat: CS4 is NOT a disaster.

It is working way skippy for me!

[Guest]

Cook,
What company made your video card?

When you Google your video card the sites make note of some cards shipping out with defective capacitors. CS4 gives video cards a pretty good workout. That said, do you think your video card might be one of the defective ones thus causing your problems?

You wanted facts and not "theories". So here is something you can work on.

[_JoshP_]

After reading Hugh's post, I disabled "Documents as Tabs" and this sped up Photoshop CS4 significantly. Now brush strokes, screen redraws, menus, etc, are working much faster in comparison to the excessive sluggishness that was before.

Earlier I had disabled OpenGL and allowed old graphics cards, using Adobe's registry patches. I also set cache levels to 8.

One or more of these is responsible for the speed boost. Photoshop CS4 is usable now. It's not as fast as CS3, but usable.

[hhansard]

I would be careful with cache of 8 --- you may chew-up a lot of memory if you open more then one large document at a time.

Consider, do you need 8 levels of live zoom per image? If one small image at a time, ok... If several large images at a time, probably not a good use of available memory...

Glad CS4 is better for you...

Hugh

[_ProArtist_]

After doing some testing...

It seems the slow down while adjusting color curves is related to resolution.

On a 30inch LCD, 2560x1600 native resolution and working on a photo with a resolution of 2592x3888...

If I zoom 100% and adjust a color curve (adjustment layer color curve). I get very slow feedback while adjusting color curve.

If I zoom out to 50% and do the same, I get realtime feedback on color curve adjustments

If I create a 1024x768 image and zoom in at 100%, I get realtime feedback on color curve adjustments.

Photoshop seems to not be performing well at high resolutions.

This is with a Geforce 8800GTX and a Intel Quadcore.

Note if i dont maximize the photoshop window and I make the entire window a lot smaller, It will improve performance in GPU mode.

So resolution is certainly a factor but what i dont understand is why i can run opengl apps at 2560x1600 without problem and not something as simple as a color curve correction on a 2d image.

[_iVan_B__]

Yup, I tried the different screen sizes, and that did make a dif. But then again, who in the business doesn't use large monitors? Shouldn't Photoshop be able to work at high resolutions (CS3 did)

Intel Core2 Quad 2.66GHz
N512MB nvidia 8800 GT (driver ver. 7.15.11.8048 - the latest one at the time of this writing)
8GB RAM
Vista 64
Dual monitors (1920x1200 each)

I took over 2 hrs to go through every post on this thread yesterday. So far I tried everything suggested, but no help. CS4 is still unusable. Faster @ Cache level 6, but still unusable.

[Guest]

> It seems the slow down while adjusting color curves is related to resolution. On a 30inch LCD, 2560x1600 native resolution and working on a photo with a resolution of 2592x3888...

That's what I surmised a couple of hundred posts ago!

[_Erbs_Bischof_]

Exactly the same thing here!
PS CS4 is extreeemly sluggish and choppy with redraws and various inputs.
Even small documents handle like they we´re 10 x 10 feet large.
It´s beyond ridiculous.
I´m testing the trial version atm, but boxed version is on the way...

I´ve tried every possible checking and unchecking of what preferences
have to offer but to no avail.

My GeForce drivers are the very, very, latest and Vista home is automatically up to date.

I keep my system neat and tidy with registry aids, defrags etc.
Needles to say that PS CS 1 ran smoothly.

Specs are:
Acer Aspire 9920 (20" screen monster), 4GB RAM, 500 GB Drive,
GeForce 8600M GT w. 512 MB

Lost.
Erbs

[Guest]

Yes, we get the point, Erbs!

[_iVan_B__]

Quick question, J.J.

Are you a software engineer ar Adobe? I was just wondering if you had an update on the progress.

If not, any of you that are and do? I know you're working hard on this, I just thought an update would be cool.

I contacted nvidia today; I'll post here if I hear anything back from them. So far I'm seeing a number of configurations similar to mine that also have this issue, so I'm hopefull the solution is on horizon.

As far as Erbs' comment, I think his post may help educate the new users on the existance of the issue on other threads. I don't think it was malicious (it wouldn't hurt if you link to this thread though, Erbs)

[Guest]

> Are you a software engineer ar Adobe?

No just another user.

Just about all the Adobe engineers are now identified as such under their names.

> As far as Erbs' comment...

He pasted that same text into at least 4 threads. That was my point.

[_Erbs_Bischof_]

Yes John, I behaved a bit like a raging noob in this forum because I am. Just didn´t want to see this topic getting lost in the mist of time prematurely.
And with CS4 coming my way (and my cash going their way)I can´t help wondering: Will I get a sufficiently working piece of software ?

iVan B. is spot on:
As far as Erbs' comment, I think his post may help educate the new users on the existance of the issue on other threads. I don't think it was malicious (it wouldn't hurt if you link to this thread though, Erbs)

I´ll behave from now on.
Promise.
Erbs

[Guest]

>I´ll behave from now on. Promise.

if you do that we can't let you back in! :)

[_Erbs_Bischof_]

I am in. I want OUT
;)

[Guest]

"I'm sorry, Dave. I can't do that."

😉

[_Erbs_Bischof_]

When listening to HALs final lines, PS CS4 pops into my mind.
Wonder why that is...

[Hudechrome-sd9sPI]

The weird thing is, as I explained in detail in another thread, my installation seems to be working fine despite having 11 errors show up! Not only that, my system isn't exactly the top of the heap. It's a single core Athlon 64, 2G processor, only 2G of memory and the video card is a PCI, not PCIe card! (PCIe bus went down so I grabbed a $50 PCI card until I rebuild). Needless to say, I have no problems with graphics as the Open Gl is not functional.

Cox is right. Solve the video problems with an ancient card!

Maybe ancient everything as well!

[_Erbs_Bischof_]

Lawrence, I hope you are sooooo wrong!

[Guest]

>Solve the video problems with an ancient card!

Yes, Lawrence, but then you wouldn't be enjoying any of the new OpenGL features that you paid for in the upgrade. Might as well just go back to CS3, which is what I've done. 8(

[_Loretta_Zupko_]

What kind of OpenGL can you do with CS4? Is this in the basic or Ext.?


>

Yes, Lawrence, but then you wouldn't be enjoying any of the new OpenGL
features that you paid for in the upgrade. Might as well just go back to
CS3, which is what I've done. 8(

[PeterK__]

Keep in mind that when CS4 was being developed and tested, it was on older cards and drivers, not the latest ones.

[Hudechrome-sd9sPI]

Yeah, then the card people changed the rules....

I don't need the 3D stuff, and in some ways, CS3 is better. How can anyone prefer the tiny windows for Layers? I haven't looked for a way to make them bigger, and so far, the graph in Curves is the crude less accurate one. Combine the two and the appearance to a user inexperienced is "these don't matter much".

But there are some real advantages. Auto Tone is one.

[Guest]

> Solve the video problems with an ancient card!

Or you could just go back to the Big Chief tablet and be done with it.

[hhansard]

OK, some of the comments on this thread are getting inane.

The nVidia FX series has been out for what, five years. The card I am using was "top of the line" (i.e. $3,000) three years ago. The Open GL spec has not changed during the beta test phase of CS4

I apologize for being rude, but if you do not know what you are talking about, please do not speculate.

Hugh

[Guest]

There are a lot more good things in CS4 than OpenGL!