Photoshop is extremely laggy on high-end system

[lucellent]

Trust me when I say I've tried EVERYTHING.

This includes:

• clean installing Windows 11
• installing the latest studio drivers
• installing older/factory drivers
• using Creative Cloud Removal Tool and reinstalling Photoshop
• increasing the Performance settings to max (RAM usage, cache levels etc)
• laptop's cooling is perfect - vapor chamber heatsink, new thermal paste, doesn't get hot or throttle
• Windows performance mode
• turning off hardware acceleration (not a real fix)

For reference: Intel i9-13900H, 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD (7000mb/s, brand new), Nvidia 3500 Ada 12GB 

All of these only for Photoshop to run like a turtle. This is system wide - brush is laggy (it's not the smoothing setting), selections are laggy, creating shapes is laggy, scrolling/zooming is laggy etc.

I have a PC with almost the same specs and same settings, and Photoshop runs fine. No issues there.

[D Fosse]

First of all, since this is a laptop, it probably has dual graphics. That's always a potential conflict. Disable the integrated GPU as per section 6 & 7 here: https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/troubleshoot-gpu-graphics-card.html 

Generally, laptops tend to be filled up with all kinds of useless software. This is where the laptop vendors see a chance to put their own stamp on the product. Most of it is just in the way, and causes problems. Uninstall, or disable as much as possible from startup. Also, go on a hunt for everything that looks gaming-related, and disable/reset.

In short, clean up.

When you install the studio driver, check "clean install" to remove all traces of the old driver. Uncheck the extra components in the driver package (GeForce Experience and PhysX). You don't need them.

Finally - never max out Photoshop's memory allocation in Preferences! That's choking the rest of the system. Even ACR runs outside Photoshop's address space, and needs its own memory separate from Photoshop. Don't go above 75% or so. Also leave cache levels at default (4).

[lucellent]

What I'm about to say might sound like a lie but I've already done those.

As I mentioned, I'm running on a clean install of Windows 11. Actually this is my fifth time doing it just because of Photoshop alone. No aditional apps are installed besides CC and Photoshop of course.

Yes, I have two GPUs and I've already tried manually forcing Photoshop to use Nvidia. -No change.

By maxing out the performance settings I wasn't clear enough - of course I didn't put the RAM usage to 100% but everything else is maxed out, like it is on my PC. RAM right now is about 90%, BUT... even with the default Settings there's still no change

(just to confirm, I just tried doing those again, with no results)

Funny thing is - when I got the laptop Photoshop used to run fine, even after the first clean reinstall. Then one day is just suddenly became laggy

[D Fosse]

Funny thing is - when I got the laptop Photoshop used to run fine, even after the first clean reinstall. Then one day is just suddenly became laggy

By @lucellent

I'd still recommend a thorough cleanup. That does sound to me like some of that vendor-installed software updated and started to interfere.

If you're uncomfortable with uninstalling, you can at least disable it from startup. That's easily reversible.

I've seen laptops where you can hardly even find the operating system, it's all hidden under all kinds of "helpful" layers. Granted, that's worst case, but there's usually something.

[lucellent]

I'm 100% confident there's no manufacture bloatware, as I always format the disk before installing Windows on it 

but appreciate the suggestions

[davescm]

Hi

Can you go to Photoshop's Help menu > System info and click on copy. Then paste the info here.

Can you also confirm that this is with the laptop plugged in to an extenal power source.

Finally try this test.
Create a new document 30,000 x 30,000 pixels , 8 bits/channel and white background. Set the zoom so you can see the entire document (here that is 4% zoom)

Go to the info panel and in panel options turn on timing.

Select the brush tool and set a soft round brush to 5000 pixel size,  hardness 0%, black (opacity and flow both 100% Smoothing 0%)

Click at the top left of the canvas and then shift click at the bottom right.

When the brush has finished drawing a soft diagonal line, read the timing in the info panel and post it here. It will give an indication of brush lag. My system takes 7.7s in 8 bits/channel

Dave

[lucellent]

Yes, I tried both on battery and while plugged in. Sending the system info and will try the other test now:

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Dicom 25.9 - from the file “Dicom.8bi”
Difference Clouds 25.9 - from the file “Clouds.8bf”
Diffuse Glow 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Displace 25.9 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
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Entropy 25.9 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
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Lens Correction 25.9 - from the file “Lens Correction.8bf”
Lens Flare 25.9 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
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MMXCore Routines 25.9 - from the file “MMXCore.8bx”
Mosaic Tiles 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Multiprocessor Support 25.9 - from the file “MultiProcessor Support.8bx”
Neon Glow 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Note Paper 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
NTSC Colors 25.9 - from the file “NTSC Colors.8bf”
Ocean Ripple 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
OpenEXR 25.9 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Paint Daubs 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Palette Knife 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Parametric Filter NO VERSION - from the file “MaterialFilter.8bf”
Patchwork 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Paths to Illustrator 25.9 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
PCX 25.9 - from the file “PCX.8bi”
Photocopy 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Picture Package Filter 25.9 - from the file “ChannelPort.8bf”
Pinch 25.9 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Pixar 25.9 - from the file “Pixar.8bi”
Plaster 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Plastic Wrap 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Pointillize 25.9 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Polar Coordinates 25.9 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Portable Bit Map 25.9 - from the file “PBM.8bi”
Poster Edges 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Radial Blur 25.9 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Radiance 25.9 - from the file “Radiance.8bi”
Range 25.9 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Render Color Lookup Grid 25.9 - from the file “Export3DLUT.8be”
Reticulation 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Ripple 25.9 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Rough Pastels 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Save for Web 25.9 - from the file “Save for Web.8be”
ScriptingSupport 25.9 - from the file “ScriptingSupport.8li”
Shear 25.9 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Skewness 25.9 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Smart Blur 25.9 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Smudge Stick 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Solarize 25.9 - from the file “Solarize.8bf”
SP Substance Suite NO VERSION - from the file “MaterialSuite.8li”
Spatter 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Spherize 25.9 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Sponge 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Sprayed Strokes 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Stained Glass 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Stamp 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Standard Deviation 25.9 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Sumi-e 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Summation 25.9 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Targa 25.9 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Texturizer 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Tiles 25.9 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Torn Edges 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Twirl 25.9 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Underpainting 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Vanishing Point 25.9 - from the file “VanishingPoint.8bf”
Variance 25.9 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Water Paper 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Watercolor 25.9 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Wave 25.9 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
WIA Support 25.9 - from the file “WIASupport.8li”
Wind 25.9 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Wireless Bitmap 25.9 - from the file “WBMP.8bi”
ZigZag 25.9 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”

Optional and third party plugins: NONE

Duplicate and Disabled plugins: NONE

Plugins that failed to load: NONE

Unified Extensibility Platform - Extensions:

Home Screen (Loaded) 7.5.0.44 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/UXP/Extensions\com.adobe.ccx.start-7.5.0\"
CmdN: 1.19.30
UAB: 2.18.0-4
Loaded at: 137 ms - launch time impact: 21 ms
ccx-timeline (Prepared) 3.1.12.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
CCX Commenting UXP Webview (Loaded) 30.7.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 3906 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
CCX Sharesheet UXP (Prepared) 30.8.1.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Content Credentials (Loaded) 0.42.23.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 3482 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
CC Libraries Panel (Prepared) 4.5.225.0 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/CEP/Extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_4_5_225\"
CAPTURE: 2.0.41 STOCK: 4.2.2
In app notifications (Loaded) 2.0.11.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 3906 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Parametric Filter (Loaded) 0.1.8.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 3907 ms - launch time impact: 1 ms
Photoshop Adjustments Panel (Loaded) 2.2.3.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 3907 ms - launch time impact: 1 ms
Photoshop UXP Export-As (Prepared) 5.8.38.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Photoshop In App Messaging (Loaded) 4.4.12.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 3908 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Information Alert (Prepared) 0.5.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Photoshop Selection Feedback (Prepared) 0.5.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Plugins Panel (Prepared) 1.4.3.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
IC popup message (Loaded) 1.0.0.0
Loaded at: 3484 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Multilayer Protection (Loaded) 1.0.0.0
Loaded at: 3485 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Discover Panel (Loaded) 2403.95.0.11 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 3909 ms - launch time impact: 19 ms
Neural Filters (Registered) 1.15.0.100 - from the file "Required Folder"
Scan time: 0 ms - entries: 30

Extensions:

Libraries 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_4_5_225\index.html”
com.adobe.stock.panel.licensing-embedded 4.0.35 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_4_5_225\extensions\stock-panel-licensing\index.html”
com.adobe.capture.extension 2.0.41 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_4_5_225\extensions\capture\capture.html”
Export As 4.8.15 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2024\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html”
Export As 4.8.15 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2024\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html”
com.adobe.cclibraries.manager 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_4_5_225\manager.html”

Installed TWAIN devices: NONE

[lucellent]

The brush test - 4,7 seconds

[davescm]

4.7 seconds does not sound slow at all in that test  - assuming it was a 5000px brush with 0% hardness used on the same background layer.

Can you confirm your setting in Nvidia control Panel - Manage 3D settings - Programs - Adobe Photoshop - Select Preferred graphics processor for this program.

Dave

[lucellent]

Can confirm

I'm open to screen recording the issue somehow but that might interfere even more with the performance 

[davescm]

I don't doubt you are having issues - I was just trying to assess the basic brush performance which, on that test, is very good.

Does running task manager highlight any issues when you see the lags? As an example are you seeing any high synchronisation activity?

Dave

[lucellent]

Only thing I notice is doing the basic tasks like using the brush, selecting etc. pump the CPU to 100%, meanwhile both graphic cards remain idle

[D Fosse]

You can see in the system info that the Iris Xe appears in several places. It shouldn't do that; it should list the RTX throughout. In other words, there's a conflict.

Did you disable ithe Iris Xe completely (as per the link I posted), or just set it as preferred in the driver?

The problem with dual graphics in Photoshop is that the GPU is used in actual data processing. It goes back and forth; it's not just a passive one way downstream flow as it is in simpler applications. You can't send data to one GPU and get it back from the other.

Photoshop may not require an extremely powerful GPU, but it does call on some very advanced functions that need to work.

[lucellent]

Admittedly only set it preferred but now I followed the full guide, including setting sniffer to use Nvidia

unfortunately barely any change, maybe slight but comparing it with my PC which is smooth as butter, the laptop is stil laggy

[TFAD1]

I stopped updating at v25.3.1 for much the same reasons.

High end desktop, no change to my system, 25.3.1 works perfectly with multiple high res TIF files open.  After that it went all laggy.  None of the changes suggested here or in my post about it worked.

[melajuana]

Dont know if its the latest update but edits are laggng like never before. I took 5 hours for something i would normally take 2. This lag is seriously affecting my mental health.

[Nahuel Lind]

Do you know how I can download that version? The latest versions's lag is killing me

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@Nahuel Lind Go to Creative Cloud desktop app>Apps>Photoshop. Click the ellipses (...) button to see Other Versions and install the version that works for you.

[MONKYMATIK]

It's terrible, create an empty workbench, and move it.

moves fluid.

add a text "a" for example

and move the work table.

it becomes very slow.

If you go down to version 25.7 and try that mass, it moves super fluid

I have tried to explain this to the support area and it is impossible.

They don't give a solution.

[CyrilDeVroom]

I went out of my way to sign into this forum and thank you on my bare knees, holy sh*t what a life saver you are. Exactly this has been the bane of my existence trying to design UI panels and you've just solved it, thanks again!!

[Andika34211595nuvm]

Hey, I don't know you found the answer yet, but i have the same issue and just fixed the problem. what i did is just change the monitor technology from g-sync to fixed refresh. hope this help

[aron_4781]

where is this setting?

[Andika34211595nuvm]

NVIDIA Control Panel

 

[aron_4781]

didtn't work.. I'm about to pull my hair out..

[Joeminator]

I'm in them same boat but with a desktop:
Ryzen 9 7950X

192GB of memory

4090 GPU, 10gbit Ethernet

Absolutely nothing else lags on this machine.  Nothing.  But photoshop is slower than molasses in January.  It wasn't like that until relatively recently.