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EG-Design
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June 21, 2016
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PS 2015.5 - Refine Edge tool? Missing?

  • June 21, 2016
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Hi,

With the new update of Photoshop it appears that the Refine Edge tool has been removed or changed into something else?
Anyone shed some light on this? Its a tool that I would always use to quickly adjust my selections when editing photography.

Closest tool I can see that looks the same and is in the same location as the Refine Edge tool is Select and Mask. This is under the right click of the selection.

Cheers,

Adam.

EG Design

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Correct answer Terri Stevens

Yes it has been retired , just when I learned how to use it Seriously I'm not up to speed with the new release yet, but Jesus Ramirez has posted a set of videos on the new features

How To Use The Select And Mask Workspace In Photoshop - YouTube

or to see many of the important ones

Photoshop CC 2015.5 Tutorials - YouTube

I think there are also links in Jeff Tranberry's post above to a number of videos by Jule Anne Kost who is always worth watching.

39 replies

New Participant
June 27, 2016

Select Menu / Focus Area... It works as refine edges as well...

Marja de Klerk
Inspiring
June 23, 2016

Thanks Terri! Scott Kelby's video makes it very clear that the Refine Edge tool is not retired at all. It is only replaced by this even better tool Select and Mask.

I really like the 'Onion Skin' view!

RockyVega
New Participant
June 23, 2016

And they couldn't just ADD this new feature instead of DELETING the Refine Edge option? Thanks for getting rid of something that helped increase my workflow, Adobe. Real nice.

Benjamin Root
Legend
June 23, 2016

Try it out. I was a little surprised myself, but it has not changed that much.

Conrad_C
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 23, 2016

Benjamin Root wrote:

Try it out. I was a little surprised myself, but it has not changed that much.

Exactly. There doesn't seem to be much reason to panic, and I think "retired" and "missing" are not accurate ways to describe it. Select and Mask is largely the same as Refine Edge, but enhanced.

If you liked using Refine Edge features like Radius, Smart Radius, Feather, Decontaminate Colors…they are all still there in Select and Mask. They have not been retired at all.

If you liked selecting with the Pen tool, it's still right there in the Tools panel, as it always has been. You can still use the Pen tool as the starting point for a selection that you then move into Select and Mask, exactly as you used to do with Refine Edge. I think they changed the name from Refine Edge to Select and Mask because you aren't just refining an edge anymore, you can also create new Quick Selection-like selections while inside it. The new name does also clarify that it can also produce a mask from a selection.

rockyv6 wrote:

And they couldn't just ADD this new feature instead of DELETING the Refine Edge option? Thanks for getting rid of something that helped increase my workflow, Adobe. Real nice.

But adding and not deleting is actually what they did here. Select and Mask has mostly the same Refine Edge features, but adds new selection features so you can save a few steps. It's an improvement, and when you look closer, nothing was really "deleted".

Participating Frequently
June 22, 2016

WHat? Seriously?

Benjamin Root
Legend
June 22, 2016

Yes, seriously.

I did use the new Select and Mask tool on a project yesterday and it worked well. It takes a little getting used to, but the features aren't entirely different.

New Participant
June 21, 2016

The keyboard shortcut still works, CTRL+SHIFT+R, though it's no longer called Refine Edge, just the vague 'Properties'  However, when I check Remember Settings, it no longer remembers that I want to Output To: Layer Mask.

New Participant
August 1, 2017

Thanks for sharing! I had to keep two versions of Photoshop, the 2017 and cs6, but to my disadvantage, they conflict with each other... Let's hope Adobe reincorporates this ability to fine tune... for instance, as it currently is, it does not work on white over white...

New Participant
June 21, 2016

This is insane! Why would they retire this incredibly useful tool. I used it constantly

Terri Stevens
Legend
June 21, 2016

watch the video-all is not lost

New Participant
October 6, 2016

I don't have time to watch this now - can someone please tell me how to uninstall this upgrade ASAP - I am also in the middle of a project - had to upgrade because Bridge kept crashing - but I don't have time to learn the new software right now - also you need to re-train your brain.

Argghhhhhh - help please

EG-Design
EG-DesignAuthor
New Participant
June 21, 2016

Thanks for the replies guys.

I can see the reason for new tool, but sometimes you want that precision with the pen tool selection and then being able to adjust the feature, edge and contrast of that selection.
That video has made a valid point and shown the ability with that tool, while being able to be quick with the selection and achieving the effect needed for the job. But I just can't stand it when a tool gets removed that I used so much for my job.

Benjamin Root
Legend
June 21, 2016

You can still use the new Select and Mask feature on a selection created with the Pen tool..

Benjamin Root
Legend
June 30, 2016

Benjamin can you explain how to use it with the pen tool? Once I created the path what should I do? I am working on silver pieces over white background! thanks

Matteo


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Terri Stevens
Terri StevensCorrect answer
Legend
June 21, 2016

Yes it has been retired , just when I learned how to use it Seriously I'm not up to speed with the new release yet, but Jesus Ramirez has posted a set of videos on the new features

How To Use The Select And Mask Workspace In Photoshop - YouTube

or to see many of the important ones

Photoshop CC 2015.5 Tutorials - YouTube

I think there are also links in Jeff Tranberry's post above to a number of videos by Jule Anne Kost who is always worth watching.

Benjamin Root
Legend
June 21, 2016

Select and Mask it is! Good one, Terri. Hadn't fully read up on the new release either.

Benjamin Root
Legend
June 21, 2016

Are you running Windows or Macintosh? I'm updating at the moment, but will check this at my end when they have completed.