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September 6, 2011
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The best monitor for Photoshop CS5

  • September 6, 2011
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I am looking to purchase a good monitor and I have  budget constraint.  I don't understand the difference between contrast ratio and dynamic contrast ratio. I know somw will ask what is my budget is and it is about 275.00- 325.00.  Thanks

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    Semaphoric
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    September 19, 2011

    I've been wanting one of the NEC Mutltisync 30 inchers for a long time: http://www.necdisplay.com/category/desktop-monitors. The Spectraview models come with an X-Rite Eye1 that plugs into the monitor itself, not your computer. If you already have an Eye1, NEC sells the software by itself as well.

    When, oh when, will my budget allow it? You can save a bit of money by ordering a refurished one form NEC's site, though.

    Hudechrome
    Known Participant
    September 19, 2011

    Eizo offered refurbished as well, but lately I can't find it.

    dwskasAuthor
    Participant
    September 7, 2011

    Thanks for all the responses.  Looks like the monitors that are best also cost a lot.

    dwskasAuthor
    Participant
    September 6, 2011

    The most recent monitor I was looking at was a HP 2711, which I can buy for $274.00.

    http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?storeName=storefronts&landing=display&category=display&a1=Screen+size&v1=27&product_code=XP600AA%23ABA&catLevel=2

    Noel Carboni
    Legend
    September 6, 2011

    I suggest before ordering any monitor sight unseen, you go down to the local high tech / computer store, and actually LOOK at the model you're considering getting.

    -Noel

    Noel Carboni
    Legend
    September 6, 2011

    Oh, man, a tough question...

    I have two old Dell LCDs from about 6 or 7 years ago - Ultrasharp 2001 FP models - and I don't know what I will do when they stop working.

    What do I like about them?

    1.  They're crisp to the very pixel.  Even the dot on an i is a tiny little discrete black square.

    2.  They almost perfectly map the sRGB color gamut and require very little calibration to display gamma 2.20.

    3.  They work seamlessly with Windows, powering-down and up as needed.

    4.  Colors don't shift hardly at all depending on viewing angle.  This is pretty rare.

    5.  They've been perfectly reliable.

    However, since you can't get these monitors, and it's anyone's guess whether Dell's current models are just as good, I really can't recommend anything.

    I do know, that from what I've read lately, if I did need to replace them I would look very seriously at the Dell UltraSharp U2711.  I think at least some folks here (Emil Emil?) have this model.  It's a bit above your price point, but a monitor is NOT something to skimp on, especially if you value your eyesight.

    -Noel

    D Fosse
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    September 6, 2011

    Look at the panel technology. There are basically three types: TN (twisted neumatic), VA (vertical alignment) and IPS (In-plane switching).

    IPS is what you want because it has wide viewing angles without any ill side-effects.Unfortunately it's a bit more expensive, mainly because IPS is too slow for gaming and that immediately strips away 90% of the market. The Dell U2410 is very popular and probably the best value currently in the market. A good alternative is the HP 2475W. I hear there's a new Dell model called U2412 which also has an IPS panel but is less expensive.I don't have any details about it.

    Stay away from TN panels (which is most of them). The viewing angle is so narrow that you'll see a dark to light gradient from top to bottom of the screen. This is inherent in the technology and doesn't go away with a higher price tag.

    VA is much better, but they do show a curious effect known as "black crush", which is a compression of very dark levels when viewed directly on-axis. Move your head a little bit, and the effect goes away.

    Edit: If you can afford it, or don't already have one, set aside a small extra sum for a hardware calibrator, about $100 and up. It's about as essential as the monitor itself.

    This is probably blowing your budget to pieces, but you will not regret it!

    Noel Carboni
    Legend
    September 6, 2011

    art by accident wrote:

    Stay away from TN panels (which is most of them). The viewing angle is so narrow that you'll see a dark to light gradient from top to bottom of the screen. This is inherent in the technology and doesn't go away with a higher price tag.


    I just wanted to confirm this in practice...  A year or so ago I bought a cheeeeeap Hannspree monitor for a server that just sits in the corner of the office, and while it's nice and sharp and seems to have nice color, it's exactly as described above.  Its apparent gamma response changes so significantly just from the change of viewing angle from the top to the bottom of the screen while sitting in front of it that it is utterly useless for judging the brightness/color of anything on the screen.

    -Noel

    D Fosse
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    September 19, 2011

    My crt monitor also has that crush, and from a practical pov, I rely on the final print to be the controlling factor.

    While I would like to see that separation on screen, you can lay money on the fact that the print still may not match the screen. Since deep shadow values work best giving a hint of detail, not the whole story I would not be surprised that after a test print from the image on the Eizo, I still will be tweaking the black clipping point.

    The numbers tell the story before anything else. And in any case, I can do a better job with what I have making the print than I ever could in the analog darkroom.

    We shall see......


    I see your point. When making my own prints I usually waste some paper anyway, before I'm happy.

    But my concern is that most of my files go to external printers, via design agencies and prepress and whatnot - and sometimes we get bad press runs or awful proofs, highlights come back muddy because of unexpected dot gain on press, shadows look washed out because it turns out they have a new batch of paper, that sort of thing. I really have to know that my files are right when I send them away. If possible.