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Tool's area effect exceeds selection

Community Beginner ,
Apr 18, 2018 Apr 18, 2018

What I'm doing is selecting area, inverting it (around object) and using gradient transparent-to-black to create some sort of shadow. It used to work perfectly fine, but now it's sharpening edges of object outside of the selection. Fix please?

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Community Expert ,
Apr 18, 2018 Apr 18, 2018

First thought that comes to mind is some feathering other than 0 px (zero) was set in the tool options bar for the particular selection tool before you made the actual selection.

What version of photoshop and operating system are you using?

Which tool did you use to make the selection?

Example of Feather for Rectangular Marquee Tool

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 18, 2018 Apr 18, 2018

I thought of feathering but all feather options are set to 0. I used quick selection tool.

It was all working great until today. I'm using macro for this specific thing so it should go smoothly as usual.

Windows: 7 64

Adobe Photoshop: 19.1.3

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Community Expert ,
Apr 18, 2018 Apr 18, 2018

Could you please post screenshots taken at View > 100% and with the pertinent Panels (Layers, Channels, Options Bar, …) visible?

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 18, 2018 Apr 18, 2018

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Community Expert ,
Apr 18, 2018 Apr 18, 2018

I guess I don’t fully understand what you are talking about.

Where is the Gradient Layer?

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 18, 2018 Apr 18, 2018

Gradients being used on the mask

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Community Expert ,
Apr 18, 2018 Apr 18, 2018

The Gradient Tool is not even selected in your screenshots, so what should they illustrate?

Also: Why would you apply the Gradient on the Layer Mask instead of using a separate Layer?

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 18, 2018 Apr 18, 2018

You asked for options screenshot, thought you want selection options that's why gradient is not selected. I do it on mask to reveal the original background - photo was taken on the glass for reflection

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Community Expert ,
Apr 18, 2018 Apr 18, 2018

I spoke of the Options Bar (Window > Options) but naturally I hoped for screenshots that demonstrated what you actually did and the unwanted result.

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 18, 2018 Apr 18, 2018

Okay I've got an example for you.

This is how it looked before

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and this is how it looks now

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Community Expert ,
Apr 18, 2018 Apr 18, 2018

Please post meaningful step-by-step screenshots taken at View > 100% and including all pertinent Panels to illustrate what you are doing.

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 18, 2018 Apr 18, 2018

1. Load picture to Photoshop

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2. Unlock layer and select object with Quick Selection tool

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3. Use mask and add white background

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4. Crop image, use Rectangular Selection tool, select layer mask and use gradient to reveal some of the original background

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5. Load earlier saved selection of the object. While still being on the mask, remove unnecessary background with gradient.

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6. Effect

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Hope it helps now

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Community Expert ,
Apr 18, 2018 Apr 18, 2018

Thanks for the screenshots.

In my opinion you employ a bad technique.

By loading the Selection that is identical to the original Layer Mask (or its inverse) and editing the Mask you are effectively superimposing two 8bit images and that can cause noticeable degradation.

I recommend you instead duplicate the image Layer and place the lower instance in a Group, apply Layer Mask to the Group for the gradient and then paint on a wholly new Layer Mask for the Layer in the Group.

This will result in a larger file (twice the pixel Layer, three Layer Masks) but the editiability of the individual Masking components should be useful.

(Actually a Group with a Solid Color Layer, a Gradient Layer and the image Layer Clipping Masked to the Group could provide the same result, but that may not feel as comfortable.)

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Apr 18, 2018 Apr 18, 2018

clippingGradientReflectionScr.jpg

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Community Expert ,
Apr 18, 2018 Apr 18, 2018

For the Quick Selection Tool, check Auto-Enhance and that the Brush Hardness is 100% before making the selection and see if that makes a difference.

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 18, 2018 Apr 18, 2018
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Thank you guys for valuable tips. I would use pen tool if it was time efficient. In this case I have thousands of photos that needs to be cut this way. I have prepared macros for everything that could have been sped up. I will implement different macro with gradient, solid color and group. Shadow output looks pretty nice.

Once again, thank you very much for your time and tips.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 18, 2018 Apr 18, 2018

If you need precise selections, use the pen and not quick select. What is happening is that the selection marquee only shows areas that are 50% selected, IIRC.

Try adding a Levels Adjustment layer above your image layer. Drag the Black slider WAY to the right, you'll get a much better view of what areas are what shade of grey or actually 255 white.

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