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Using Define Pattern changes the colors of my file

Community Beginner ,
Oct 14, 2021 Oct 14, 2021

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Photoshop 2021: Using Define Pattern altered the colors of the original design

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Adobe Community Professional , Oct 20, 2021 Oct 20, 2021
The jpg’s profile seems to indicate it was a screenshot, so the question about the Color Space of the original pattern image and the image containing the Pattern Layer seems pertinent indeed.  Edit: Assigning sRGB seems to produce a comparable change in appearance, so it seems likely to be a Color Management mishap. 

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Community Beginner , Oct 21, 2021 Oct 21, 2021
Well, I finally got access to the psd file (had to wait on someone) c.pfaffenbichler you were right! It was a color management mishap. The original file was Color LCD Calibrated (8bpc). I recreated the document (just in case) using sRGB IEC61966-2.1  then created a repeat pattern. Looks like the colors match now! Thank you all for your help!

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Oct 15, 2021 Oct 15, 2021

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Hello, we might need a screen capture showing the entire interface, showing the layer panel of the file you are trying to define the panel from, and showing the titlebar of the document, it might be useful also to state the settings chosen in edit>Color Settings. I'm thinking it might be related to the opacity of the layer, the zoom ratio, as there is a smallish pattern, or a color management issue.

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Adobe Employee ,
Oct 15, 2021 Oct 15, 2021

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The original file, plus the pattern preset, and the file where the pattern is used and the color is off would be useful for debugging.


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Community Beginner ,
Oct 19, 2021 Oct 19, 2021

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Hello,

Attached is the original jpg that I used to define the patter. This formum won't allow me to attach the exported pattern (pat) file or a zip file

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Adobe Employee ,
Oct 19, 2021 Oct 19, 2021

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The file used to create the pattern looks like a regular RGB 8 bit file...

The questions:

  • When you created the pattern what was the Color Space RGB (or for example Adobe RGB) ?
  • What is the Color Space of the document that you are adding the Pattern. 

 

I agree that if we can see the Layers Panel and Document Tab, it might be useful info to help us debug why the color shifted.

Also may want to try a file share site, Creative Cloud allows you share a link to a .pat or .zip from your cloud files.

 

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Oct 20, 2021 Oct 20, 2021

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The jpg’s profile seems to indicate it was a screenshot, so the question about the Color Space of the original pattern image and the image containing the Pattern Layer seems pertinent indeed. 

Screenshot 2021-10-20 at 13.46.04.png

 

Edit: Assigning sRGB seems to produce a comparable change in appearance, so it seems likely to be a Color Management mishap. 

Screenshot 2021-10-20 at 13.56.33.pngScreenshot 2021-10-20 at 13.56.39.png

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Oct 20, 2021 Oct 20, 2021

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Yes, this is just different color spaces. Entirely expected and normal.

 

Same pattern:

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Oct 21, 2021 Oct 21, 2021

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Dag, when you said Same pattern, expected, should we understand that Color Management is not respected for patterns? 

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Oct 21, 2021 Oct 21, 2021

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Well, the pattern is just numbers (I assume?), so I would expect that to be represented differently in different color spaces.

 

I had one empty sRGB file and one empty Adobe RGB file, and then I applied the pattern I had just saved out from a third file.

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Oct 21, 2021 Oct 21, 2021

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Well, I finally got access to the psd file (had to wait on someone) 

c.pfaffenbichler you were right! It was a color management mishap.

The original file was Color LCD Calibrated (8bpc). I recreated the psd (just in case) using sRGB IEC61966-2.1  then made a repeat pattern. Looks like the colors match now!

 

Thank you all for your help!

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Well, I finally got access to the psd file (had to wait on someone) 

c.pfaffenbichler you were right! It was a color management mishap. The original file was Color LCD Calibrated (8bpc). I recreated the document (just in case) using sRGB IEC61966-2.1  then created a repeat pattern. Looks like the colors match now!

 

Thank you all for your help!

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Oct 19, 2021 Oct 19, 2021

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I was not able to reproduce. (see attached PSD)

 

You can use the UI below the text editor area for a reply to attach PSD and other file types:

JeffreyTranberry_0-1634678197638.png

 


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Thanks! I'm still not sure why the design is still a differn color once I define pattern. I made sure to use the psd you sent me. Still having the same problem.

Here's an image that shows the whole area plus the color settings

Screen Shot 2021-10-19 at 3.50.26 PM.png

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Oct 19, 2021 Oct 19, 2021

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did you create the pattern with the "from psd" layer or are you recreating the issue using a pattern you had previously created? Maybe the original pattern has an error that will be fixed if you create a new pattern?

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Oct 20, 2021 Oct 20, 2021

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Hi, it the issue still visible when you look at 100% ?

I have the same question as Earth: was the pattern created in the same file, using the layer partly hidden?

Also, is the blending mode of the layers set to normal? 

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Oct 20, 2021 Oct 20, 2021

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Please set the Status Bar to »Document Profile« and post screenshots. 

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