/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-ideas/p-provide-support-for-linux-2011/idc-p/8323971#M19838Jan 30, 2017
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But then we have to buy Apple Hardware, and I hate the design of their hardware, and how closed-off everything is. I'm sure many in the Linux camp are not excited about giving up most of their freedom; though it is certainly preferable to Windows in nearly every way.
/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-ideas/p-provide-support-for-linux-2011/idc-p/5324189#M13017Feb 27, 2017
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I feel way too uneducated about the software engineering and platform related topic in this thread to comment on anything but my own use-case.
I'm a freelance illustrator (I draw and paint). My one and only piece of software for conducting business both for work and lifestyle 90% of my time is Photoshop.
I am subscribed to a Photoshop CC license.
I can't say I am making anything but a guess potentially educated by knowing my peers in the illustration and concept design community (locally, globally, small or largely).
But in my own case and my estimate of my peers concerns is that _we don't use Linux at all_ primarily because Photoshop is not available.
I've tried most Linux-available software in which you can paint and edit pixel images like in Photoshop and have never had any option but to stay with Photoshop. Nothing I've tried (Painter included for measure) comes close to efficiency and performance.
This is my past 15 years of computer use and student and professional life summed up in one easy explanation as to Linux use.
Linux looks beautiful and luring since I got to know it, try it, and keep seeing it used by programmer friends.
I would love to get a Linux workstation and start working on a Linux platform.
What keeps me using Windows is 2 things: habit/convenience and no Photoshop.
I guess that maybe the statistics are always going to be hard to interpret unless a central powerhouse of (2D) CG work such as Photoshop (for me PS in particular) were available on Linux.
My friends are totally divided between Mac and Windows and the difference is uninteresting as long as we have a good machine that runs Photoshop as well as possible. This is how we consider a machine, and how we prioritise hardware and platform.
Photoshop comes first. Performance is everything! I would use some unheard-of OS if it gave me a 120% performance boost in Photoshop.
We're artists and PS users first and care about OS second.
Personally I'm way more likely to switch my 3D package use from whichever package I use to Blender both for Blender's strong merits in and of itself and for the portability, if only PS were available on Linux.
Linux keeps staying alluring, beautiful-looking, and interesting to me same way as 10 years ago but unless my main tool of trade is available... I simply don't have time or interest to have a Linux machine or dual-boot situation.
I don't get notified by surveys other than the pop-up that comes up at PS launch that allows you to rate the product and provide some feedback.
I spend every character on conveying my most desired PS improvements and a Linux port is not my main concern however if PS were available as a real port on Linux then I would consider using Linux for sure! 🙂
I love Photoshop. Writing this on a ubuntu machine at a friends place. I've always had a slight Linux draw/interest but a select two-at most tools of my trade keep me in Windows and recently, it's mostly only Photoshop (and Ableton for me). (Nuke, Blender, 3D Coat are already available for Linux so a switch wouldn't be far off).
This has very little relevance to the expertise previous posters have shared but I am confident enough to expect that many CG professionals like me would have the same sentiment.
I've probably exhausted my say in the matter already and can only express my 2 cents. I for one will always pay for a PS license and the one factor deciding if I would install Linux on a machine is PS! 🙂
/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-ideas/p-provide-support-for-linux-2011/idc-p/5324190#M13018Feb 27, 2017
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First things first: don’t give up on Photoshop just yet! With a little knowledge and elbow grease, it may be possible to run Photoshop as-is on your Linux distro. This is done by using an emulator called Wine (which stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator).
Wine is a dumb compromise, Adobe should pull their thumb out and support Linux natively!
I am not a Windows or Mac user but i wish to use Photoshop? I am screwed. As Linux usage pushed from 2-3% surely Adobe could plan to get some support already?
Like most businesses Adobe main concern is to make a profit. Before they support additional platforms Adobe needs to fix the bugs in their products for the platforms they support. That would improve their image and profits more than supporting additional platforms with their current ported code with additional bugs.. Photoshop has many bugs.
I can hardly wait for someone to make a tool to rival Photoshop for Linux. I hate Adobe for forcing users to stick with outdated, crappy operating systems and for conspiring against Linux. I imagine they've made some kind of deal with Microsoft and Apple.
I'm one of the thousands of people stuck using Windows 7 solely for Photoshop, and Linux for everything else. Because of this great inconvenience, I absolutely refuse to ever pay for Photoshop or any other Adobe product. I've been pirating them for years, which is the best option so far.
/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-ideas/p-provide-support-for-linux-2011/idc-p/9168069#M24536Jun 03, 2017
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I'm a full stack web developer and design websites on Photoshop. It also better for editing photos. But I don't use windows as my operating system I am using Linux instead and I is the same for most developers I think It is more security and has big performance than windows. So why Adobe company doesn't make Photoshop and Illustrator available for Linux OR can it be online service. Thanks Adobe
/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-ideas/p-provide-support-for-linux-2011/idc-p/9168072#M24539Jun 05, 2017
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Nothing has been deleted. There are more than 200 posts. Adobe will not reply, their future plans are kept secret, but the responses gave many reasons why some people feel it won't happen and why other people feel it should.
/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-ideas/p-provide-support-for-linux-2011/idc-p/9168075#M24542Jun 05, 2017
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I want to know if Adobe willing to produce their products for Linux?
As I remember Mr.Cox has repeatedly stated they did not intend to release Photoshop for Linux and given reasons for that but some Linux users seem to have proven unwilling to accept arguments that do not conform to their preconceived notions.
/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-ideas/p-provide-support-for-linux-2011/idc-p/9168076#M24543Jun 05, 2017
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You mentioned that this question was from 2012.
Well, what you say is the correct answer was the very first reply only 5 hours after the original question was posted back in 2012.
Any answer from 2012 may not necessarily be correct in 2017 - 5 years later.
As TestScreenName posted, this thread is ongoing with the latest reply on May 30 2017.
As of this time there are 488 replies on 13 pages, which makes it probably one of the longest threads on the Photoshop forum.
Long story short, there is no definitive answer.
To quote TestScreenName:
Adobe will not reply, their future plans are kept secret, but the responses gave many reasons why some people feel it won't happen and why other people feel it should.
/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-ideas/p-provide-support-for-linux-2011/idc-p/9168078#M24545Jun 05, 2017
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Even though the quotes from Mr.Cox are five years old or older they seem pretty clear concerning the state of affairs back then:
Yes, we have gathered more user data. Nope, it hasn't changed the market in a measurable way. There still is no significant market for commercial desktop software on Linux. Linux use is growing, but MacOS and Windows are growing much faster.
There is a market on Linux for server software. Just not so much for desktop software (I should have been more specific).
And Photoshop is few orders of magnitude more complex than the apps you first listed. Yes, the lack of standards and problems with APIs on Linux can be overcome -- if you have a market that makes it worth the hassle.
There is no one, comprehensive checklist that I know of. But yes, lack of standards and lack of system provisions for things that should be system wide (like fonts and color) are stumbling blocks. They can be overcome, but the OS really should already have standards and handling for things like that. (and "pick the window manager of the month" doesn't help, either)
Because there is no sign of the facts changing anytime in the forseeable future.
If Linux users want to see a change they need to start by making the OS more attractive to porting (ie: stable, standardized APIs), and make the market more attractive (ie: be willing to pay for software).
/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-ideas/p-provide-support-for-linux-2011/idc-p/9168079#M24546Jun 09, 2017
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Christoph,
When I attempted to go to the third party website that was mentioned, I got the message that the page was no longer active, so I was unable to read anything, much less see who the contributors were.
I didn't know that Chris Cox was active on that 3rd party website discussion.
If I had known this, my reaction would have be different.
As a long time forum user I completely respect Mr. Cox. I know he has been involved in many long discussions on numerous issues including Linux among other things.
These Linux discussions crop up on a regular basis and on the longer ones it becomes exhausting to slog through the whole discussion since they repeat the same claims/counterclaims, attacks and defenses over and over again.
I recalled that Chris had valid answers in the Adobe forums, but I simply wasn't up to researching all the old postings.
Thank you for doing the research that I just didn't want to get sucked into.
For others still wanting more information. Christoph and others have posted links to some of the other discussions.
P.S. I started writing my first reply before your first reply came in. You obviously can type faster than I can.
/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-ideas/p-provide-support-for-linux-2011/idc-p/9168080#M24547Jun 09, 2017
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Chris Cox is much missed. He as an Adobe insider had a unique understanding of the inner workings of Photoshop at a level we end users cannot hope to emulate. He once took me to task for describing an issue with resizing an image leaving a transparent border as a bug by explaining in great detail and passion why it was a consequence of the mathematics of digital imaging. He seems to have left Adobe now, as his name no longer features on the splash screen, but whoever now employs him is lucky to have him. Best of luck Chris, if you happen to see this.
/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-ideas/p-provide-support-for-linux-2011/idc-p/12267631#M5180Jun 13, 2017
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I will run Photoshop and Illustrator in a VM for eternity ... or until you make them native on linux. I think there's a ton of devs waiting for this, because Windows is a caveman O/S, and Macs are overpriced.
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