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hilbrandbos
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June 27, 2022
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Why is it not possible to keep the masks made in Camera RAW or import them as photoshop layers?

  • June 27, 2022
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Why is it not possible to hold on to the mask that you so carefully make while importing the image into photoshop. For instance:

 

I have a photo with a human subject. I drag it into photoshop. I make two masks, one for the subject and one inverse. I apply my tonal adjustance to each of the masks. Why can't I keep these masks when I import the raw file to a photoshop file? Now I have to recreate these masks again, which means I do the same job twice? What kind of design is this? If I hate one thing it's doing double work. 

15 replies

Participant
May 17, 2024

As an photographer and programmer that handles hundreds of photos every day I agree that masking import/export is paramount. The AI tools are far from perfect, making the selection job arduous and repetitive. I don't know if I can develop some similar functionality with a camera raw plugin. If not I might move the whole raw developing routine in custom tools entirely. Too much hassle for nothing..

Known Participant
July 16, 2022

Adobe does not have to rewrite Camera RAW, although some think Adobe should rewrite much of the x86 code base. Adobe could simply position the "sensei" masking tool used in Camera Raw as a neural filter. Even better use it for the object selection tool because the current OST just doesn't.

Stephen Marsh
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 1, 2022
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Interesting, Stephen — it says "Upvote" before you vote and changes to "Voted" afterwards.

By @jane-e 

 

You're right Jane, seems like a strange choice of wording if one can't downvote. Being able to "vote" on comments also just confuses things, it should just be a like rather than an upvote IMHO.

 

 

jane-e
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 1, 2022

 

@Stephen Marsh wrote:

Upvoted (well, there is no downvote option, so perhaps I just voted)...

 

 

Interesting, Stephen — it says "Upvote" before you vote and changes to "Voted" afterwards.

 

~ Jane

 

Stephen Marsh
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 30, 2022

Upvoted (well, there is no downvote option, so perhaps I just voted)...

 

Perhaps the feature request needs to be made in Lr and not Ps?

 

Layer support is not even required, just the ability to export out the mask as a file would be better than nothing, allowing one to manually mask in Photoshop if nothing else.

jane-e
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 30, 2022

I've just Upvoted, making the total number of Upvotes "1".

 

Jane

 

Chuck Uebele
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 30, 2022

Dave's workaround suggestion is more work, but viable. I've done that with plugins, like Nik. I too agree, that it would be great to be able to export the mask.

JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 30, 2022

And what does it matter to you if it's a major rewrite or not, why react so apologetic for Adobe? If it's a good feature it's worth making. They should have thought of this before they even designed the masks feature. You have to agree with me that it saves a lot of work


I am not apologetic for Adobe and I already agreed that it would be nice to have. I am just trying to explain that it is unlikely that we will get this feature any time soon (or at all), because it would require a major effort that Adobe has to weigh against other requests and planned new features. That means I am realistic rather than apologetic. That's all.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga
TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
June 27, 2022

The edits are parametric. Some masks are pixel versions of previously generated AI masks (Select Subject/Sky) but they only live and can only be used within the ACR engine with the parametric edits. So no layers and no way to use these masks outside the ACR engine. IOW, Photoshop masks and LR/ACR masks are utterly different beasts. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
hilbrandbos
Participating Frequently
June 27, 2022

Couldn't find any posts about it and I've searched long and hard to see whether it was possible to keep the masks and import them into photoshop. And what does it matter to you if it's a major rewrite or not, why react so apologetic for Adobe? If it's a good feature it's worth making. They should have thought of this before they even designed the masks feature. You have to agree with me that it saves a lot of work.