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Organizer: How do I get back to the grid showing Search results?

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October 23, 2018
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In the Elements Organizer (PSE 18), I run a search based on a keyword. The resulting grid shows the results. When I double-click on one of the photos to view it, I then have the option of scrolling through the rest of the photos using the scroll arrows near the top of the screen (e.g. < 2 of 114 > ). At that point, I can also click on Back to get back to the search results grid. But as soon as I take any action on one of the photos (delete, edit), the Back button no longer take me back to the Search results. Instead, the grid I return to contains every item in my catalog. I need to click on the keyword tag again in order to get just those items back in the grid. Is there a way to go right back to the grid I was working in, without needing the extra click?

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Greg_S.

Community Expert

@marygb, I don't know whether this has been suggested before, but have you tried using the Find>By Details (Metadata) to conduct your search. You can then save the search and immediately return to it using the Find>By Saved Searches command. It seems to me that this would save you some steps if your search criteria are within the parameters of the dialog.

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marygb

Known Participant

Thanks for all the help. I did not know where the Save This Search button was and I have hit reset in my own mind and started working with temp albums. I humbly withdraw my request for a Refresh Last Searh button. Thanks for your help and your patience.

MichelBParis

Legend

Hi Mary,

We have to thank you for your eagerness to understand and your patience to clarify how you are seeing your problem. One major reason for volunteers to help other users is to 'learn by teaching'. So, when we find a problem which we can't understand and reproduce, we are a bit frustrated. Your issue did look like something we had met in the past without being able to reproduce it. Now, we have a better understanding of the expectations of other users even if similar looking issues may have different reasons. A very positive result!

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marygb

Known Participant

I have Adobe Elements 2022 and it still has the same issue of not staying on the search results screen. I have to go back and pick my last search to see the matching pictures over and over again. It should be pretty simple to have a return to Grid btton that takes you to the grid of the last search.

MichelBParis

Legend

Help us understand why and how you are getting outside of your selection back to the whole library.

You are staying within your selection and you organize and edit the selected files in any viewing mode (single file display by double click, detailed view or adaptative view, full screen (F11)) until you do something which makes you exit it. You can even delete files from the catalog without losing your selection. Pay attention to the top horizontal bars which illustrate the status of the selection. On the left, beware of the 'back' button which is there precisely to exit the selection. On the middle, 'All media' means you have no selection, on the right, 'Options' and 'Clear' definitively show that the selection is active.

So we should concentrate on which action you are doing which makes you exit the selection.

Are your selections the result of a search, the selection of a folder or an album?

MichelBParis

Legend

We don't seem to be on the same page with what I see as an
inconvenient search process.

For example, I am working on collecting the best of my pics of my son who
turns 50 in April. I already have name tags and person tags assigned to his
pics. I have tried hard over the years to set the year of the photos but
when I started out, that was not the case.

Where I landed a few years ago is to use a naming convention where the file
starts with y followed by the year. After that, I don't try to make file
names intelligent as I rely on the tags. But by having the year as the
first part of the name, e.g., y1972-, then when I do a search of any kind,
they fall into a timeline sequence.

My challenge right now is to find duplicates where my guess of the year was
off by one. Obviously, I am talking about photos taken prior to iphones or
smart cameras with photo info and where mos of the photos were scanned.

So I do a search and visually look for duplicates where one might be named
y1974- and another y1976-. So I pick the better one and rename the pic
based on a quick analysis of which year looks right. But then, guess what
happens - I lose my search results and have to go back and search again.
This happens over and over again. Is it not possible to save the original
search results and have a button called Last Search Grid or let Grid always
be the last search results or have a button that says refresh last search
instead of having me select search, position myself on the last search
criteria over and over again.

We don't seem to be on the same page with what I see as aninconvenient search process.
By @marygb

Indeed.

You have chosen your own method for dating old files via the renaming. For the same general problem with my family archives, I have chosen to keep the estimate year of the date_taken for each file. Like you, I can select files in a short span of years and and search visually or even use the available visual similarity search which works well to stack the same taken image received from different family sources.

As suggested before, changing the date or the name used as a criteria for the search will make the previous search invalid. You want to be able to stay or even go back to the selection resulting from the search even if a criteria (date or name) is changed. In normal organizing processes, what you have to do in such cases is not required and is at risk to be much too heavy for saving the selection. The offered solution is for you to save the search result as an 'album', which is exactly what you want. It's a playlist, a sorted list of pointers to the internal identifiers of the selected files. That list does not refer to filenames nor dates only to the internal identifier which is not modified if you change manuall the date or the name. Dates and names are just attributes of the file known by its identifier. The advantage of the album is that you can display it in 'custom' order, which is the order of the search result, or by date, or by name. When changing those criteria, the album is still avaible and you can always come back to it afterwards.

So, my suggestion is to create the album as soon as the search is displayed and not to rely only on a saved search with non permanent criteria.

Greg_S.

Community Expert

This seems to only happen when you delete an item from 100% zoom. I believe if you zoom out using the slider at the bottom, you will remain in the filtered view of your keyword tag.

gfbugaboo작성자

Inspiring

That is not correct. I just tried reducing the zoom, then deleting the photo from the catalog only, then clicking Back; thumbnails of all catalog photos were displayed.

This seems to me to be a defect in the software. I think I need to change my behavior and go back to the thumbnail list any time I want to delete something from the catalog. Since I need to look at the larger view of a photo in order to determine whether or not to keep it, going back and forth to the thumbnails for every delete is inefficient. It should not be necessary, but I don't hold much sway with Adobe, so I it's me that has to change.

Greg_S.

Community Expert

Perhaps I am not understanding your workflow. Either editing or deleting an image from a filtered grid does not remove the filter. It is only clicking the back button that returns you to an unfiltered grid.

BTW, I have never noticed it before but after filtering the grid with a keyword tag, the "back" button says "All Media." If you zoom in to 100%, the "back" button changes to a "Grid" label. If you click the Grid button from 100% zoom, it should return you to a filtered grid. It is only clicking the "Back" button that removes the filter.

Double-clicking an image at 100% zoom also returns you to a filtered grid.

Are you seeing a different behavior?

This seems to only happen when you delete an item from 100% zoom. I believe if you zoom out using the slider at the bottom, you will remain in the filtered view of your keyword tag.

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