Can I load third party presets into Premiere Elements 2024?

[Frank34636430lcj3]

Hi- I'm new to Premiere Elements and I'd like to load/install some presets like an Earthquake effect from Cinecom and some from Pixelan (the CreativEase and SpiceMaster programs) but I can't figure out how to install or load them in. In Premiere Pro it seems you can just load them into the Presets menu by right clicking the menu but this doesn't seem to be available on Elements 2024, but I'm a newbie with this program and I'm hoping I'm missing something obvious. The websites for the Pixelan say they work on Premiere Elements 11 on up, but their instructions say to just drag the effects presets to the C/Adobe Premiere Elements folder/Presets or Plugins folder but nothing happens after I do that. Help, please and thank you!

[John T Smith]

You need to ask program questions in the forum for the program you are using
To ask in the forum for your program please start at https://community.adobe.com/
Moving from Using the Community (which is about the forums) to the correct forum

[Frank34636430lcj3]

Oops, I'm sorry- just overwhelmed with all this at the moment. I will look for the Premiere Elements Forum. Thank you!

[John T Smith]

Look at the 3rd line that I posted... your message is now in the correct forum

[Frank34636430lcj3]

Thank you John! Any ideas about 3rd party plugins and Premiere Elements working with them?

[John T Smith]

Sorry... no

I only use what came with my 2021 version

[Frank34636430lcj3]

Ok, that's what I figured but here's a quick follow up- I've seen on YouTube videos where users were using a different earlier version of Elemenets (like v14) and there were presets like Camera Shake, Old Film (I think that was the name) or Earthquake but those seem to be missing from the 2024 version.  I have put together with key frames a few of my own presets but they aren't nearly as good as what I saw with those older presets. Is there anywhere to get those older presets and why did Adobe drop those from the new 2024 version? Thanks for any advice.

[John T Smith]

>Is there anywhere to get those older presets

As far as I know, Abobe does not have a separate download for older presets

>and why did Adobe drop those from the new 2024 version? 

I don't work for Adobe, so I have no idea... Adobe also removed the ability to create a DVD

[Bill Sprague]

"Is there anywhere to get those older presets and why did Adobe drop those from the new 2024 version? Thanks for any advice."

There is no way to get older effects from Adobe and I don't know of any third party effects that are targeted for Premier Elements like for Premiere Pro.  

When you install Adobe products there is an option to share usage data.   In an effort to streamline,  features were removed recently.  My guess is that it was based on usage.  

[Frank34636430lcj3]

Thanks for your reply Bill. I sure wish Adobe could have made that clear when I was buying Elements that it's not possible to install any 3rd party plugins as some of the efx I was using with my Movavi software gave me a bunch of really nice pre-programmed efx that I could easily drop into my project and now I'm going to have to go back and forth between Adobe and Movavi programs to get my work done. For instance, in the Adobe Premiere Elements Users Guide it states, "In addition to the dozens of effects included with Premiere Elements, you can use effects from other sources. You can purchase effects (in the form of plug‑ins) from the Adobe Store on the Adobe website and from third‑party vendors."   But that still doesn't really explain why Adobe took out presets that were in previous versions of Elements as it didn't cost them anything to keep them included. I understood when purchasing Elements 2024 that it was not going to be as robust as the Pro version but I was not informed that you could not import 3rd party plugins and the text I quoted above made it seem I could. Disappointed, to say the least.

[John T Smith]

>guess is that it was based on usage

I'm sure that is correct... from what I've read the 'delivery' process for individual computer programs has or is moving away from DVD and BluRay discs... so PrEl will no longer create a DVD (which is not necessarily the process for a big movie studio)

Over in another message I've recently talked about adding menu scene markers to a DVD using version 2021 (I still sometimes create a 'family' video to share with VERY non-tech relatives who understand a DVD but do not understand a flash drive plugged into the back of their TV, if they even have a new enough TV to have a USB port)

So I will stick with the version 2021 that I have... it does what I want, and runs well on Win11

[Frank34636430lcj3]

It sure seems odd to take away a function like Burn a DVD as how much coding did that save to take out that feature?! I still sometimes need to burn a DVD just as you mention John, as not everyone has the latest computer and is using cloud services to store their files! But dropping preset effects take up so little space, coding-wise, that why not keep them inclusive? They probably spent more money having the coders delete the presets than just leaving them there!

[Peru Bob]

It sure seems odd to take away a function like Burn a DVD as how much coding did that save to take out that feature?!

By @Frank34636430lcj3

I don't think that it was a coding issue.  I remember reading that it was a licensing issue with the encoder.

[Frank34636430lcj3]

I wonder if the Pro version still lets you burn a DVD?

[John T Smith]

>I wonder if the Pro version still lets you burn a DVD?

Premiere Pro never did that... up to CS6 the program Encore was included to author/burn a DVD

Subscription Premiere Pro dropped Encore due to licensing issues with the company that owned the actual authoring & burning code... Encore that Adobe wrote was a 'wrapper' around the authorcore

Premiere Elements is completely different code, from a different team, and the BluRay creation was removed due to licensing (I think Sony owns that license, but I'm not sure) when the BluRay 'owner' removed permission

I don't know why DVD creation was removed

[Ann Bens]

Premiere Pro never did that... up to CS6 the program Encore was included to author/burn a DVD

By @John T Smith

CS2 had the ability to burn dvd. 

Elements burning disk feature looks very much like they used in CS2.

[Frank34636430lcj3]

Oh, and I wish I had bought the 2021 version if those presets were still intact in that version, but I couldn't find that for sale now as 2024 is the only one out there.

[John T Smith]

I hesitate to mention ebay due to the number of fakes that have been reported, but a DVD of v2021 may be OK if the seller has a good rating

You would, of course, need to do a license transfer

Transfer (selling or giving your software away) https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/transfer-product-license.html
-you may NOT sell or transfer an Education serial number
-you also may NOT sell/transfer if you used a program as the basis to buy an upgrade at a reduced price

Otherwise, Windows only DVD+BluRay https://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/taw6.html

[Frank34636430lcj3]

Thanks John. Yeah I know what you mean about Ebay but if I could get a 2021 version that had the video effects Earthquake, Metallic, Old Film & Zoom Blur, and I could just transfer them into 2024 or use 2021 then after my edits etc move the project to 2024 to complete it that'd be perfect. I see on the Adobe Store that I could buy the Premiere Elements 2020 for $135 at https://shop.adobe.com/DRHM/store but I wonder if it would allow me to work in 2020 version to get some of the effects I want and then open in 2024 version and use some of the newer effects or if it would only use the ones that are linked to the 2024 version?   Well thanks for your help, and Bill's too. Happy 2024!

[Peru Bob]

I wonder if it would allow me to work in 2020 version to get some of the effects I want and then open in 2024 version and use some of the newer effects or if it would only use the ones that are linked to the 2024 version?  

By @Frank34636430lcj3

Unfortunately, that won't work.

[Frank34636430lcj3]

Thanks Bob- yeah that's what I kinda thought would be the case...

[GraphiteGal636]

If you can get a properly licenced version of older elements, then it is possible to copy the Adobe fx.  I've got elements 15 and 2023.  I occasionally use some New Blue fx, I was able to copy the plugins from the elements 15 directory to elements 21.  It doesn't work for the audio vs but I believe Denoise have been added back for 2024 (nice one Adobe) but Audacity is free and has a bunch of useful features.

[Ann Bens]

Hi- I'm new to Premiere Elements and I'd like to load/install some presets like an Earthquake effect from Cinecom and some from Pixelan (the CreativEase and SpiceMaster programs)

By @Frank34636430lcj3

You cannot.

Those presets are settings based on effects native to the program.

[Peru Bob · Accepted solution]

Hi- I'm new to Premiere Elements and I'd like to load/install some presets like an Earthquake effect from Cinecom and some from Pixelan (the CreativEase and SpiceMaster programs)

By @Frank34636430lcj3

Cinecom is compatible with Premiere Pro and After Effects, not Premiere Elements.

Pixelan effects and transitions are installed, not copied:

https://www.pixelan.com/smxx/new.htm