Import Corrected Transcript Adds Spaces

[Stan Jones]

I don't recall if I reported this previously, but it occurred as early as 22.6.0.50. 

Steps to reproduce:

1. Create transcript (source or static I think).
2. Export as .txt.
3. Reimport unchanged (or with edits).

Result:

A - Space is added between transcript segments.

In the original export, segments are separated by:

CRLF

CRLF

If you re-export, segments are separated by

CR

CRLF

Space CRLF

CR

CRLF

CRLF

CRLF

B - If create captions, spaces appear as boxes with X. (These can be edited and removed. Or if you simply open the segment for editing but make no change, the space remains but the box/X is gone in the caption on the timeline.)

Expected:

No space would be added.
 

Workaround. Export original transcript as .txt. Merge segments outside PR by adding a single space after each segment and removing the line ending. (This creates a single, word-wrapped segment.) As timecodes, use the begin timecode of first segment and the end timecode for last segment. Import as corrected. Import as corrected. The original transcript timecodes are used and no extra space is added.

If you merge in PR, the original timecodes are lost.

System info
    Application: Premiere Pro (Beta) v23.6.0.18
    OS: Windows v10.0.19045, RAM: 63.80 GB GB, CPUs (logical): 16

[Stan Jones]

I am very surprised; I thought this was fixed.

I see it in 23.6.2, 24.0.0, and the new 24.0.3. I do NOT see it in Beta 24.2.0 Build 15.

The problem occurs on import of a file; the exported file does not contain extra space.

I may be confused because almost all of my recent tests with "import corrected" modifies the file so there are NO timecodes, just a single word wrapped paragrph with no returns. This imports correctly with PR applying the timecodes.

Note that in my newer tests for the workaround, a beginning and ending timecode nor a line for speaker are required.

@Alexander_DVA @Kerstin Ebert 

Stan

[Kerstin Ebert]

Hi Stan,

we fixed this issue recently, you should see it working in 24.1 or newer beta builds. Let me know if it still occurs.

Best,

Kerstin

[Stan Jones]

Thanks for the confirmation. Yes, I see it fixed in my current Beta 24.2.0.15.

Stan

[Sophie325702601c87]

Hi, I think I'm having the same problem described in this thread. This happens on virtually every video I upload that is about an hour or longer. I am up to date with 24.4.1. I've experienced the same as above, in which an imported corrected transcript seems to start at 43 min. in and then fails when converting to captions. The one I'm working on  starts at 01:00:56:08 and is failing during the caption conversion process. Another one made it halfway through and then crammed all of the remaining thirty minutes' worth of text into a single caption line that flashes for a second across the screen and then disappears.

I tried uploading a .prtranscript and .txt file here but the comment box is saying those file types aren't supported. 

This has been happening constantly over the last half year and I would love to learn how to troubleshoot it. 

[Kerstin Ebert]

Hi @Sophie325702601c87 

thanks for reporting this. What are the exact steps you're doing with the transcript? Do you export it as .txt file and then make any changes to the text (if yes, what kind of changes?)?. Do you re-import it to replace it with the original source clip transcript, of do you want to import the transcript to a static sequence transcript?

Thanks,

Kerstin

[Sophie325702601c87]

Hi there, here are my steps.

We review a transcription (generated outside of Premiere Pro) in Word. I then move the text to NotePad++ and do CTRL J to join all paragraphs. Move it back to Word and save as a plain text file with Unicode (UTF-8) encoding and end lines with CR only. Once that's saved, that's the file I upload as an imported corrected transcript to Premiere Pro. 

And that's after generating the Premiere Pro static transcript to make the imported corrected transcription option clickable. 

[Stan Jones]

@Sophie325702601c87,

Using Ctl+J in Notepad++ does not remove the timecode and speaker lines. I do not have any problem in my tests in 24.4.1 importing this "single paragraph" format - or editing while keeping timecodes, etc.

I also do not see the problem discussed in this thread, where extra line endings were created during the export/reimport process.

Sent you a PM.

Stan