P: Detailed Report: Premiere Pro 2024 has Some Severe UI Issues

@the_dudes sadly the issue still persists for me even with the effects panel closed. but more recent betas are working better

You'll never guess this one:

Closing the effects control panel did the magic trick 😂

Everything is back to fluid/as expected! All timeline features (Show xy...), 4K timeline, multiple Lumetri FX stacked, Chromakey. Even a bazillion of open panels: scopes, infamous track mixer, essential panels, text editing. Yay, I guess?

This. Is. Nuts.

PP is so bogged down, I can't work! 🙎

Specs: Win 10 x64, AMD 1950x, 64G Ram, RTX3090 at 555.85
Please fix 😭

Premiere is unusable for me with this new interface lag. 3 seconds between clicks. Looking forward to a resolution.

UPDATE: BETA 24.5.0 (BUILD 21) (1/1)

unsure what was changed with this update but timeline performance is SEGNIFICANTLY slower. now it doesnt matter how many clips are on the timeline. if the timeline is resized during playback. the entire timeline has a massive lag and delay applied to it

UPDATE: 23.5 CHANGES (1/1)

As Of Today This Thread Will Opperate A Bit Differently. I Shall Be Updating in Categorys To Keep Information Condenced.

What Is "23.5 CHANGES"?

Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2023 v23.5 Is The Origin of Bug. This Category Is For My Findings Within The Archived Update Logs For v23.5.  Some New Developments Have Been Made

BASIS FOR THE ISSUE: 

• Timeline Lag When Too Many Elements On Screen At Once
• Big Impact From V23.4 -> V23.5
• DrawBot Change May Be At Hand
• Timeline Elements Have NEGITIVE EFFECT IN ALL VERSIONS (Proxy Badges)
• GPU Speed Has NO EFFECT
• CPU Speed HAS POSSITIVE EFFECT
• Scaling HAS POSITIVE EFFECT (300% Improves The Issue)
• Resolution HAS POSITIVE EFFECT (Lower The Resolution = Better The Performance)
  (ISSUE IS LINKED TO TIMELINE GUI ELEMENT SCALE. SMALLER THE TIMELINE BETTER THE PERFORMANCE.)

(UPDATED) Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2023 v23.5 Changes                         

• Fixed Timeline Scroll Lag (VERY POSSIBLE)
• High-res Monitor Timeline Performance Fix (Most Likely)
• Optimized GPU Memory Utilization (Very Likely)
• Improved Timeline Scrubbing and Playback (NOT THE ISSUE)**
• Dropouts/Missing Waveforms When Timeline Zoom Fix (NOT THE ISSUE)**

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High-res Monitor Timeline Performance Fix

THIS IS THE THE MOST LIKELY CANDIDATE FOR A CAUSE. As we know this issue is highly affected by screen resolution. and screen scaling. the

bigger the timeline is. the worse this issue gets. meaning whatever optimisation was made here could well be the issue we are searching for. 

With Little Information on Whats Actually Changed I Cannot Provide More Information Than This At This Time

Fixed Timeline Scroll Lag

If This Is Related To Timeline Elements Being Drawn Its Very Possible This Is The Issue.

With Little Information on Whats Actually Changed I Cannot Provide More Information Than This At This Time

Optimized GPU Memory Utilization

GPU Speed Improvements Dont Improve The Issue.
So its VERY Possible That Whatever GPU Changes Were Made Is Not Supported By Some Machines. Gpu Overclocks Should AT LEAST show some improvement. Not none at all? BUT the other 2 issues are still more likely candidates.

With Little Information on Whats Actually Changed I Cannot Provide More Information Than This At This Time

**Now For The Changes Ive Made To Remove The Other 2 From Possible Issues. Improved Timeline Scrubbing and Playback:  It Seems That In Comparison From The most recent beta and this update. there IS an improvmeent in scrubbing and playback and its not actually an issue at all. as scrubbing and playback are better than ever. Dropouts/Missing Waveforms When Timeline Zoom Fix: Disabling "audio waveform". the same issue appears. maybe a little improvement but nothing substancial. Due To This ive ruled it out as a possuble cause.

Again i will restate. This issue is more easily solved if im allowed access to some back end details to be able to solve this issue for you. or at least gain some more intel. I'm willing to sign whatever contracts or doccuments that are required to allow me to do this legally without breaking company policy. even just read only access.
Failing this the best next step would be for an adobe employee to go into the repository for Premiere Pro at the time of july 2023 when this update took place and look into the 3 issues ive provided. then send me custom premiere pro versions without these modifications or some changes to them so i can report the changes. 

UPDATE: GPU OC

As mentioned earlier i popped a gpu overclock on and premiere seen no improvement in timeline performance whatsoever.

which to me is proof enough that this problem is CPU based as the cpu overclocks made a difference on timeline performance.

or possibly an issuse with the communication between the cpu and gpu.
if i make any more developments ill doccument them here

@R Neil Haugen So ive disabled Memory integrity (of course)
ive also upped and disabled my virtual memory.
ive enabled and disabled memory compression
ive disabled every memory setting i can find. and although the timeline lag i think got a tiny bit less. the issue still very much persists

They've got a fancy name I don't recall from the post. But I've seen a couple other users here and elsewhere that found it, turned it off, and suddenly memory usage was vastly improved for Premiere.

I HATE about everything in computers and monitors designed to "enhance the user experience".

@R Neil Haugen just curious. by "optimize memory use and resources" do you mean "memory integrity"? ive did some googling and i cant seem to find a setting with that

although if it is core isolation and memory integrity your mentioning. i have those both disabled as i disabled TPM in my bios for debugging

although its interesting that you have a 3960x and dont experience these issues. it means its most likely either a GPU or Motherboard issue. or maybe the 3960x reports were user error and not this bug.

theres so many possibilities. but i really want to be able to see into adobe specifics so i can find out what the issue actually is. 

i might try overclocking my gpu and see the impact of that on the ui performance as a whole. as if it improves there we may know where the issue lies. im still trying to find any programs i can use to benchmark this to find what it could be!
and im just loosing the will to live hahahah! im kidding. i just want to find this bug asap. cause i know if i had the right tool id be able to figure it out in a day