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Major lag on timeline with Premiere Pro v 23.1 - macOS

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Explorer ,
Jan 09, 2023 Jan 09, 2023

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Since updating to Premiere v 23.1, I'm experiencing serious delays when performing standard actions on the timeline (scrubbing, trimming, playback, etc). Restarting the application seems to provide temporary relief, but performance quickly gets sluggish the longer I edit.

 

The lag occurs regardless of:

  • whether the playback resolution is 1/4 or high
  • whether High Quality Playback is checked
  • whether I've rendered clips on the timeline
  • the type of media (compressed video, proxies, just audio)

 

I've also tried:

  • updating macOS
  • setting my audio input to none
  • clearing the media cache
  • resetting the workspace

 

I use Productions and am working on the same projects (now upgraded to the new version) that had no performance problems before the last update. If anyone can help me troubleshoot or provide insight, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks, y'all.

 

System specs

  • macOS Monterey
  • Version 12.6.2
  • Mac Pro (Late 2013)
  • Processor 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon E5
  • Memory 64 GB 1866 MHz DDR3
  • Startup Disk Macintosh HD
  • Graphics AMD FirePro D300 2 GB
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Adobe Employee , Feb 02, 2023 Feb 02, 2023

Hi everyone, I'm the product manager on Premiere Pro and I want to let everyone know that we are working hard to fix this issue.  This is a bad bug for sure.  Our engineers are very confident they have tracked down the root cause and are working hard on a fix.  In the meantime, this is what we know.  We are only getting reports of it affecting MacOS, but the problem could in theory affect Windows too.  Closing and reopening the sequence is the best workaround that we know of right now, but it's

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 19, 2022 Dec 19, 2022

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Since updating to v 23.1.0, sequence/timeline scrubbing progressively gets worse, very sluggish.

 

Saving my work, then restarting Premiere fixes the issue temporarily.

 

Then it gets progressively sluggish again.

 

Previous version was fine with scrubbing, very responsive.

 

iMac Pro 2017

128 GB

macOS Monterey

2.3GHz 18-core

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 19, 2022 Dec 19, 2022

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**Also closing the offending Sequence, then re-opening it temporarily fixes the sluggishness.

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New Here ,
Dec 29, 2022 Dec 29, 2022

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I've read several posts re. this issue, so when is Adobe going to acknowledge this?! I don't feel like I need to list all the details of what I'm experiencing since everyone else has already done that. Please Adobe, can't you acknowledge this and get back to us?! I thought it was my fault and it produced so much stress and wasted so much time that always ends up with me pulling more hair out of my head! I'd be understanding and far more loyal to your company if you could just acknowledge the issue and let us know there's hope!  

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Community Expert ,
Dec 29, 2022 Dec 29, 2022

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There have been threads here with devs asking questions, including wanting project files and sample media. They're working on fixing it.

 

Neil

 

Mod note: edited for content.

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New Here ,
Dec 30, 2022 Dec 30, 2022

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Hey Neil, 

 

Your insights are greatly appreciated. On one hand, it feels good to know it's NOT ME. On the other, it couldn't have come at a worse time now that I have a deadline to meet. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to provide the lay of the land and here's to hoping the Adobe team will figure it out in the new year!

 

Benson

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Community Expert ,
Dec 30, 2022 Dec 30, 2022

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Hoping they figure this out, yeah, me too!  😉

 

And if you can work better in 23.0 or 22.x, well .. .at least you're working ... always practical here.

 

Neil

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Explorer ,
Jan 03, 2023 Jan 03, 2023

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I'm on a Mac Studio M1 Ultra and a MacBook Pro M1 Max machine and I've noticed this problem on both machines running Ventura 13.1 and Premiere 23.1.

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Explorer ,
Jan 10, 2023 Jan 10, 2023

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Adding the projects to a new Production also hasn't resolved the issue.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 10, 2023 Jan 10, 2023

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Same Mary. I hope this gets fixed! 

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Explorer ,
Jan 10, 2023 Jan 10, 2023

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Thanks for posting this. I've experienced the same thing as you, though I am not using Productions.

 

System specs:

macOS Monterey (12.3.1)

Adobe Premiere Pro 23.1.0 (Build 86)

Macbook Pro 16-inch, 2019

2.4 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9

64GB 2667 MHz DDR4

AMD Radeon Pro 5600M 8GB

Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536MB

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Explorer ,
Jan 12, 2023 Jan 12, 2023

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I switched to a different device (specs below) and am still experiencing the same issues. 

 

  • Mac mini
  • M1, 2020
  • Chip Apple M1
  • Memory 16 GB
  • macOS Ventura 13.1

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Explorer ,
Jan 13, 2023 Jan 13, 2023

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One other possible symptom, albeit a small one, that may help is that I've noticed with more regularity that my "Selection Follows Playhead" timeline setting constantly reverts back to turning on. I prefer this setting to be off. I've experienced this before but not with the frequency I saw on my last project.

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New Here ,
Jan 14, 2023 Jan 14, 2023

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Kevin, I tried all the above and it hasn't helped. Premiere works fine when I boot it up, but after a couple of hours, it slows down like it's totally run out of steam and gets incredibly laggy. What's the next step? You mentioned something about filing a bug? Please advise.

 

Thank you,

Benson 

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 15, 2023 Jan 15, 2023

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Ive had major issues since upgrading to premiere 2023 as well. I have a fully specked out new MacBook Pro M1 Max silicon and 64 GB of ram so its not because of a lack of performance from my machine. Firstly, when I re-open a project after closing now I have to re-render now. This is taking up hours of my week that previously I did not need to waste. Secondly, it takes far longer to render and to export. I've had a couple of other glitchy issues happen that were uncommon with previous versions but less consistently so I'm hoping a patch fixing bugs is coming soon.

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New Here ,
Jan 15, 2023 Jan 15, 2023

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I am experiencing the same thing but one thing that helps is switching to "Mercury Playback Engine GPU Acceleration". For some reason I always have to switch manualy to it. Before the update i didn't need to do it every time. And of course, I was working on raw Alexa 4k files with no problem.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 15, 2023 Jan 15, 2023

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There are a number of users with this ... it starts out great, then after X time (different with each user) it slows, often a restart does get better performance but as it just starts the process over, it's not a "fix". Just how to get work done as-is.

 

What it sounds like is Premiere is not letting go of some resource or something that's getting clogged up in it's operational 'space'. Somehow.

 

Hopefully the devs will sort this out.

 

Neil

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New Here ,
Jan 16, 2023 Jan 16, 2023

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I'm on the same config, while I know it isn't a positive reinformcement I feel a lot more sane knowing another M1 Max user is running into the same issues! Felt like my M1 Max turned into my old Intel Xeon, and I watched in iStats as my RAM was gobbled all the way down to 3GB for seeminly no reason at all. Rendering with ME while Premiere is still open crashes the system, this program is unbelievably useless. 

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Jan 17, 2023 Jan 17, 2023

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Hello all - I'm looking for a little bit of help with Premiere. I updated my computer yesterday to the new Mac OS Ventura 13.1 and now, I basically cannot use Premiere. It starts out ok for a few minutes, but then the program starts to lag really bad; so bad that I can't really work. Oddly enough, playback seems ok, it's really when I'm working/moving things around the project that it gets bad. The playhead isn't even stopping where I need it to - by the time the program has registered that I'm trying to pause in a particular spot or edit to music, the playhead stops behind the place in my timeline where I hit pause. Even moving clips forwards or backwards in the timeline takes a long time, I'm ending up with edits all over the place. I've tried all my normal fixes, turn it off & on again, restarting my computer, clear my cache, etc. I'm still having problems. Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated, thanks! (attached photo of computer specs)

 

For reference:

Version of the app: v 23.1 (updated 14 days ago)

Platform and OS: Macbook Pro, 2019, os ventura 13.1

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 17, 2023 Jan 17, 2023

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I can tell you, it's not a corrupt sequence or project or anything we can do with caches or anything. It's a major performance bug that's being discussed on multiple different threads, reported by dozens of users. I have tried every single trick in the book I could find, and nothing helped. The only solution was to downgrade from 23.1 to 23.0. That helped a ton, but downgrading should never be a solution.

Kevin, if there's anything you can do to let the developers know about this (I bet they do already though), please do so. This NEEDS to be fixed. At the moment, the latest release of Premiere is literally unusable.

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Jan 18, 2023 Jan 18, 2023

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Hi, I have performance issues using Premiere Pro on my Macbook Pro.

Version I use: Premiere Pro 23.1

Macbook Pro 16' 2021 Model with Apple M1 Max 64 GB and MacOS Monterey 12.5.1

 

For example, after I work on the project for 1-2 hours, moving clips or the playhead becomes slower, almost as if Premiere itself is working at 5fps. The playback of the clips is not affected. The problem only occurred after I updated to the new version 23.1. The project I'm working on is very big, includes about 70 hours of video material from a wide variety of codecs (ProRes4444, ProRes 422, H264) and has about 100 sequences in which the days of shooting are summarized. The master sequence is about 2 hours long.

(It is a documentary film with 1.5 years of material and meanwhile over 400 hours of editing. Please help me!)

 

What can I do to make Premiere run smoothly again? All tips and tricks are welcome.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 18, 2023 Jan 18, 2023

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in the future, to find the best place to post your message, use the list here, https://community.adobe.com/

 

p.s. i don't think the adobe website, and forums in particular, are easy to navigate, so don't spend a lot of time searching that forum list. do your best and we'll move the post if it helps you get responses.

 

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Jan 18, 2023 Jan 18, 2023

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What are the hard drives (how many, what kind, what is on each, what capacity, and how full)?

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Jan 18, 2023 Jan 18, 2023

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There are a few topics about this issue, i also created one and all the answers are similiar like "whats the video codec you're using" or "what are the sequence settings"

 

Issue is only about the 23.1 version. There is a UI bug in the 23.1 and whenever you switch sequences, it gets slower and slower and slower each time no matter your disks are SSD or HDD or External, or you're working with h264, or mpeg or mov. And i don't know why but people just don't accept this, like it must be about your codecs, not the software.

My only temporary solution is, just install 22.6.3 version. You don't need to uninstall 23.1. I kept it and also installed 22.6.3 and it works like charm. Doing the same video edit. So it's not about codecs or disk emptiness or operating system. its just 23.1 is broken. Hope 23.2 will fix this.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 18, 2023 Jan 18, 2023

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Sorry to hear that you're experiencing poor performance in Premiere Pro. 

 

If it shows in Creative Cloud Desktop, you could try installing Premiere Pro (Beta) and running it alongside Premiere Pro 23.1. As it's the newest Premiere Pro, it may run better under the latest macOS. If you have a personal plan with Adobe, it should be available. If you have a plan that an administrator manages, it may not be available.

 

Mod note: Edited for content.

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Jan 18, 2023 Jan 18, 2023

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Yeah, I literally spent three weeks troubleshooting and trying all the options above to no avail. I'm officially switching to Resolve. I spent yesterday working on it and it had none of the plethora of issues that I experienced with Premiere. It even cut 6k footage in real time without a hitch. The only reason I'm staying with Premiere is because of the transcript feature. It's unbbelieveable in 2023 that an app like premire is this dysfuntional. This is one of the biggest software fails I ever experiened in my life since I started using a computer. Regardless, I wish Premiere all the best in figuring it out their issues.

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