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February 27, 2025

Media File Path loops

  • February 27, 2025
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I've observed over time, in different projects, different premiere versions and on different Macs how sometimes the browser column for Media File Path specifies a path that doesn't exist. It starts off fine at the root, ends up fine, but in the middle there can be added several loops taking the path through other folders that really doesn't belong to the path. I call this Media File Path looping, or Ghost Paths. 

 

Below, there is two items from my browser that in the osx file system have similar paths. The first is correct, the second has the extra loops through other folders marked in the red box. To be clear: The path in the second example does simply not exist on the computer drive file system.

The file, video or audio, will play in premiere, so the first noticeable effect of this loop is when you try to use "reveal in finder". Then you will be taken to the point of the false loop, where the finder system will give up to find the actual file you were asking about. You can still find the file manually in the system, if you know where to look.

I strongly suspect, even if the media plays, it also has a "confusing" effect on the performance of the system, so when I see this behaviour, I use some time to fix the paths. Relinking works, if you take the time to manually override the automatic pathfinder, and specify the actual folder. When there is a loop in the Media File Path, you will only be taken to the first wrong node of the path.

I'm not sure why and when this looping occure. Importing? Have not seen it. Batch relinking? Maybe. Reconnecting drives that has been disconnected? Plausible.

All I know for sure is when the wrong link is established, it's persistent through closing program, turning off computer, trashing prefs and all that. I would appreciate other experiences and observations of this phenomenon. 

5 replies

jamieclarke
Community Manager
Community Manager
February 28, 2025

Hi @ateigen - Can you send a link to jamiec@adobe.com to download your project.  Thank you for your help.

ateigenAuthor
Inspiring
February 28, 2025

The correct file path in the example above is correct, because I manually relinked it.

I fix the paths as I find them. Things are not going offline, even if the path is represented wrong in the browser. I clean house in some stages of the project, but with thousansds of clips it's hard to catch everything, and I'm not always sure if clips with wrong path late in the project always had that path, or if it's "just happened" resently.

In this thread I was mostly interested to see if there were others that has experienced something like it.

 

It's an undertaking describing the workflow, but main points for current project:

  • Feature documentary project, hundreds of hours video and externatl audio, thousands of clips.
  • Proxy workflow. Proxies on separate drive.
  • I work on a single workstation, but customer does much of syncing and proxy generating themselves. I copy material to my drives, same file structure, and import their syncing projects into my master project. 

 

The looping thing is common occurence in other projects - it's annoying, but usually not a big problem. I thought maybe it's my computer.

 

But I recently was involved in an established project at a major norwegian broadcaster, a series editied on several workstations with centralised storage and proxy workflow. They have a very different setup than my one-man-editing suite, but after fighting a heavy lagged down project, I found that most of their project's media file paths were having this looping path issue. They have a staff of technical support, but hadn't noticed. 

 

So I was wondering maybe this is more common than I first thought.

 

Thanks for picking up on the issue. I'll try to find time to describe my workflow in more detail as soon as possible.

 

Bruce Bullis
Community Manager
Community Manager
February 27, 2025

We would love to get a reliable repro case of this behavior! 

Getting Jamie a representative project would be a fine start. 

In an ideal world, you could provide step-by-step instructions, which reliably reproduce the behavior. 🙂

The top path is correct. All the other clips

> should have had the same path as the first.

What, if anything, differentiates the 'correct' file, from those with looped paths? Was it always online, and the others were added later...? [We're trying to determine what would prompt PPro to reconsider that project item's path...]

ateigenAuthor
Inspiring
February 27, 2025

The path /Volumes/Havard_transportdisk_Kingston/01 FILMPROSJEKT/VIND/Sounddevices/24Y03M06 does exist, but it does not - and never has - contained the files in question, and certainly not any folders. In the example you can se the path reach the (false) node "VIND", which in reality is the top folder for the project's raw material, and from there it finds it's way to the correct file.

 

The looping file path is maybe better illustrated with this example I just found in the same project:

The top path is correct. All the other clips should have had the same path as the first. There is no nested folders in the actual file system. So as you see, the path keeps pointing back on itself in the premiere browser. In other instances, like mentioned in the first post, it point to some other seemingly random folder.

 

I don't know what causes this, or when it happens, but my feeling it is woorkings under the hood, maybe related to automatic relinking, proxy workflows, I dnon't know.

 

I'm bringing up this question to see if others have noticed the same, and can give me an idea on how to trouble shoot it.

 

As it doesn't cause a direct error other than making trouble for "reveal in finder" and manual relinking, this issue can often go under the radar for some time. 

jamieclarke
Community Manager
Community Manager
February 27, 2025

Hi @ateigen -   Thanks for submitting your bug report.  We need a few more details to try to help with the issue.
Please see, How do I write a bug report?

 

Are you saying that you have never had a folder on your drive that was the path circled in red?

Can you let us know your workflow or reproducible steps?

The filepath comes from when you import files into Premiere.

 
Sorry for the frustration.