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May 17, 2023

P: Max Render Quality - not functioning

  • May 17, 2023
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Exports run as normal with Max Render Quality selected, but it has no decernable affect on quality of output. Primary use case is exporting UHD sequences at HD. The sequences contain some assets that are upscaled in motion settings on the timeline and then subsequently downscaled as part of the export. Previously using Max Render Quality has functioned similar to AE's continous rasterization and subsequently exports of upscaled-then-downscaled source material show no quality loss compared with the original source file. However, in the current version there is a noticable quality drop as if Max Render Quality has not been checked.

 

Premiere Pro Version 23.5.0 (Build 56)

Media Encoder Version 23.5.0 (Build 51)

 

MacOS Monterey Version 12.4

Mac Pro (2019)
Processor 3.2 GHz 16-Core Intel Xeon W
Memory 192 GB 2933 MHz DDR4
Startup Disk Macintosh HD
Graphics AMD Radeon Pro Vega Il 32 GB

 

39 replies

Participating Frequently
May 8, 2024

Hey @Wes Howell,

I have done a test here, along with test files:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-bugs/max-render-quality-not-functioning/idc-p/13985699#M12889

 

I've added 2024-05-08_Prem_MaxQ_Bug.zip, which includes project files for Premiere 22 and 24(latest update).

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11u2D_6vp5KQ44dUDoGU8m5ZfiMXT6JTR

Export settings were always "Match Source High Bitrate" with only changing Resolution to 1080p and toggling Max Render Quality depending on the test.

 

Note that in Premiere, the image is always sharp - differences can only be observed in the final file.

The only export that was sharp was the export from Premiere 22 with Maximum Render Quality enabled.

 

Thanks a lot for looking into this!

 

Wes Howell
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
May 8, 2024

I could probably track down an older version 🙂

Do you have a sample project that shows clear results that you can share?  I will send you a PM

Brice5C88Author
Known Participant
May 8, 2024

@Wes Howell I would love to but the last un-affected version of Premiere/Media Encoder was the 22 release, which is no longer availble for download and I don't have a copy of on any of our edit machines. As an Adobe Employee do you have access to a working older release?

 

I'm very keen to get this fixed and happy to help any way I can.

Wes Howell
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
May 7, 2024

From an engineering perspective, the most useful thing would be a small test project that reproduces the failure along with info on what prior release produced superior results.  Exports showing the difference between releases would be great.  Often times, the devil can be in the details so getting to a clarified simple repro case would be the clearest way to get any potential bug logged and prioritized.

Participating Frequently
May 7, 2024

Bumping, as it's still a big issue in our workflow.

Brice5C88Author
Known Participant
September 20, 2023

 

 

And here's the source (left) and render (right) of a HD clip on a UHD timline.

 

 

 

 


 

    

Brice5C88Author
Known Participant
September 20, 2023

Yep.

R Neil Haugen
Legend
September 20, 2023

Are you setting both the Sequence Preview setting MaxR and export MaxR?

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Brice5C88Author
Known Participant
September 20, 2023

None to my knowlege. The work around I was using (rendering through a backdated copy of Media Encoder) is no longer working.

 

I've taken to exporting everything at UHD (our default sequence size) with bitrate dropped to VBR target 5 max 15. It's poor but better than HD with the potato scaling.

chrisw49527043
Participant
September 20, 2023

Is there still no workaround for this? As others have said, it absolutely ruins the quality of footage that is made in a higher resolution and then needs to be exported at a lower resolution. I used to do this all the time and tickingthe max render quality option fixed it, but now does absolutely nothing.

 

I'm on version 23.6