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I followed long with Karle Soule's videos on how to convert a Project to a Production. 

Where should I send project files?

How was the Production made or updated? Was the old project imported through 'Add Project' in the Production panel? The way a Production is created could have an impact (eg. make sure there is no media in the actual root Production folder structure, importing instead of copy-pasting sequences from previous projects, consolidating duplicates, and organizing within the Productions panel instead of Finder). You may be familiar with the Productions User Guide or even the Best Practices Workflow Guide (Productions is Chapter 6), but they go further into this if interested.

It's difficult to say without having a project file whether it's a project, version, or even system issue, but still happy to take a look if you'd like to share. If you have a copy of the project before conversion and that is working fine in v25.x, that could potentially help narrow down where the issue is originating too.

Clearing my cache was one of the first things I tried and it didn't seem to help. Since this is a project that's been updated to a Production, is there anything about the cache settings (or any other settings) that I should update as well?

How often have you cleared your media cache @dion43? It will have to build itself up again but could improve performance in the longrun, especially after so many project updates. If interested, you could share your project (no need for all the media, but enough relevant clips) and we could take a look and see if anything additional stands out, I can message you if so.

Thanks for the additional information @dion43. Yeah, it can be difficult to narrow down what is causing issues especially in older and growing projects. Did the Productions conversion happen before or after the update and do you recall which version you updated to 25.2.3 from?

Are you using any third-party plug-ins or effects? How is the storage space on your computer and on your external drives? (SSDs or HDDs?)

For the Source drop-down with the multi-cam clip, can you toggle between these two 'same' clips? If you right-click > Reveal in Project to both ‘exact’ clips in the Source monitor, do they both point to the same?

Thanks Dani,

Since I upgraded to 25 around the same time I converted the project to a Production, it's difficult to tell what the source of the issues could be. 

It is a project that I started five years ago and then, as it grew, I converted to a Production. The media is in several different projects (arranged by date), and my sequences are also broken up into several (and separate) projects. The media is stored on two separate drives, and the proxies are on a third. The project is stored on my computer's internal drive. I have not noticed any processes running in the background.

However, one thing that I have noticed that seems ominous is that when I match-frame footage that is from a multi-cam clip the source list (from the pull-down menu) often lists the multicam clips twice (as in, the exact same clip name appears twice in the list). 

Premiere's code is constantly being updated, through each new version. Code specific to older hardware is replaced, and at times, removed. Plus the newer version is designed for efficient use of newer computer resources.

So as you go through the years, older computers will struggle more with each new major version. The same thing happens on PCs. I've got an older PC as my 'backup' rig, primarily as it has everything on it back through the original CC version. I didn't even try to load 24 or 25 on it, as 23 was painful.

But the 2015 CC Premiere Pro works fine. But then, that computer dates to around summer of 2017 or a bit later. About the same age as yours.

So if Pr24.x worked ok on it, it did better than my similar era PC.

But it is necessarily way ... old.

What are the hard drives (how many, what kind, what is on each, what capacity, and how full)?