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January 23, 2018
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2018 Premiere Pro CC and FilmicPro - any status change?

  • January 23, 2018
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I've been looking through the thread on using FilmicPro with iOS to capture video and the problems reported with importing into Premier Pro.

I'm wondering if there is any update or change with the current version 2018 Premiere Pro CC, the new iPhone X, and the latest Filmic Pro app.

The problems reported centered around audio drift and the apparent problem with VBR recording in FilmicPro and the lack of VBR support in Premiere Pro?

I'm looking for simplified advice on best settings to use in FilmicPro for 1K and 4K video capture and whether sound is a still problem requiring either separate recording or using handbrake to transcode before importing into PP.

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    Correct answer Kevin-Monahan

    DJ Rumbu,

    Premiere still doesn't support VFR (variable frate rate) files. No matter what app you use on the phone. You can convert the files taken with filmic with Handbrake to CFR (constant frame rate) and they will work fine in PP.

    Update to 12.0.1 and VFR is supported. Please try it.

    Thanks,
    Kevin

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    Participating Frequently
    May 20, 2019

    Any work around to this issue?
    I have footage from Filmic Pro shot today and the audio is not syncing in Premiere 13.1.2 (build 9).
    Is there a program that will transcode these file correctly?

    Inspiring
    January 30, 2018

    Kevin-Monahan​ here are a bunch of clips, they are the original ones, not downsized by google , 24, 25, 30 fps, with clapping action for great visualization. For Premiere Pro - Google Photos . This is all from a Nexus 5X (android 8.1) with the latest Filmic Pro app.

    These clips of course work well in VLC or similar but in premiere, in the source window, or in a timeline, they have audio sync issues, even with this set.

    Just in case, to be super clear

    so the audio is before the video.

    SpivRAuthor
    Known Participant
    January 29, 2018

    I'm still confused about using video shot in FilmicPro on iPhone X and importing/editing with Adobe CC 2018 12.0.1 that supports VFR

    iPhone X with iOS 11.2.2

    Settings > Photos > Transfer to Mac or PC > Keep Originals

    Settings > Camera > Record Video > 4K at 60fps

    Settings > Camera > Formats > High Efficiency

    Desktop Computer:

    iMac 5K

    macOS X High Sierra

    Adobe Premiere Pro CC 12.0.1 (latest update with VFR support)

    Baseline: Working

    I shoot a test video with iOS default camera app

    I transfer over USB using iTunes

    File testvid.mov on my iMac Desktop

    I import into Adobe PP CC

    Everything works fine - Adobe imports and recognizes the media as VFR

    Filmic Pro: Not working

    I shoot a test video with FilmicPro settings as follows

    Resolution Menu:

    Crop Source to Overlay: Off

    16:9, 4K 2160p, FILMIC Extreme

    High Efficiency Codec (HEVC) ON

    I transfer over USB using iTunes

    When I input into Adobe PP CC, I get the error "missing codec" and it will not import

    "Get Info" on the file on my iMac finder shows the file as HEVC

    If I rename the file from .mov to .mp4, Adobe PP CC will import it and the video will preview, but the audio track is not imported

    I am looking to setup a clean workflow to shoot in 4K/60fps on iPhone X and edit with Adobe PP CC on iMac

    I would like to get advice on recommended settings (both in iOS, FilmicPro, iMac, Adobe PP CC) to do this without adding Handbrake transcoding into the workflow.  I am open to changing settings in FilmicPro to make this smooth.  I would like to stay at 4K, but am willing to adjust everything else (VFR versus CFR, 60fps versus 30fps, codec other than HEVC, etc.).  Just looking for a clean workflow that will be reliable and not based on workarounds.

    For various reasons (including having access to two iPhone X), I want to stay with using the iPhone as the video capture device, but using the latest HEVC codec is not important (I just thought it was the most storage/space efficient but that is not crucial).

    Inspiring
    January 29, 2018

    The reason filmic pro footage doesn't work, and stock camera files work, is Because, quoting their response from my email conversation with them

    "The reasons for the difference in interpretation in Premiere is that FiLMiC Pro uses a custom recorder and Cinema4k uses the stock Android recorder. The recorder manages the data and sends it on to the encoder, which then builds the file. The main advantage of having our own recorder is that we have full control of the data before and after sending it to the encoder. One benefit is better framerate adherence - but this is not what you are seeing."

    What i recommend, is definitely use h264 for now, and just use davinci resolve until pp gets this down, i have the same problems with Android and filmic, only stock camera and cinema4k works for me like 80% of the time. That's why i just ordered a compact camera and not shooting phone anymore because i hate resolve :))

    Fps doesn't matter at leats not in my case, resolution also,

    And h265 codec needs to be installed, i think pp should have it by default, at least mine has it.

    Inspiring
    January 23, 2018

    would making proxies work as the same as using handbrake to transcode?

    Inspiring
    January 23, 2018

    Well, im working in a sequence right now with android filmic clips, and the sync is not ok, still off. Looked at the changelog and looked at that setting, nothing works. Am i missing something?

    Inspiring
    January 23, 2018

    Just did some tests using footage shot on an iPhone 6s+ with Filmic directly into the latest version of Premiere Pro, and for the first time ever I was able to use  long clips and the audio sync held for the duration of the clips. Prior to this would have to transcode the footage for use - and 90% of the time would still have to manually slide the audio around.

    Can't address your issue with the Android sourced file.

    MtD

    Inspiring
    January 23, 2018

    gotcha, but yeah, doesn't work with android aparently, i'll try some other stuff, i'll post here with results

    Kevin-Monahan
    Community Manager
    Community Manager
    January 23, 2018

    SpivR,

    I have a Filmic Pro 4K project with some clips recorded at Variable Frame Rate (not VBR, that's different) and it's working fine. Premiere Pro CC 2018 (12.0.1) now supports these clips. I still recommend transcoding them for a smooth editing experience, though, not always necessary.

    Try it out.

    Thanks,
    Kevin

    Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
    Inspiring
    January 23, 2018

    ooh hell yeah, finally, i just updated 10 minutes ago, but havent tried, and i cannot find a changelog for this version anywhere. Any links for that?

    Kevin-Monahan
    Community Manager
    Community Manager
    January 23, 2018

    Check the forum announcement! I'll provide more details in the morning. It's pretty late out west.

    Kevin

    Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
    Inspiring
    January 23, 2018

    Premiere still doesn't support VFR (variable frate rate) files. No matter what app you use on the phone. You can convert the files taken with filmic with Handbrake to CFR (constant frame rate) and they will work fine in PP.

    One app that i also use sometimes is Cinema4K which for some reason makes almost all the time perfect files, and they work in premiere no problem. But sometimes it doesn't, it's a gamble.

    It's just the way android/ios makes files, they are VFR, even tho from what i tried with my ipod touch, the files are actually perfect 30fps. I don't know much about the workflow with IOS, but handbrake makes the files good and you can edit no problem. Or use davinci resolve , that works with VFR files

    Kevin-Monahan
    Community Manager
    Kevin-MonahanCommunity ManagerCorrect answer
    Community Manager
    January 23, 2018

    DJ Rumbu,

    Premiere still doesn't support VFR (variable frate rate) files. No matter what app you use on the phone. You can convert the files taken with filmic with Handbrake to CFR (constant frame rate) and they will work fine in PP.

    Update to 12.0.1 and VFR is supported. Please try it.

    Thanks,
    Kevin

    Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio