Audio Transition Tries to Auto-Clear When It Shouldn't

[defaultcfjxjh00wmdl]

Issue: Hold down the Shift key and try to adjust the end or start point of an audio cross-fade transition. If you take it too far, rather than just having the fade exist on one single clip, it warns that it's about to be cleared.

Image Explanation: (the tooltip didn't show up in the screen-record, but it said "Transition will be cleared" when the cursor changes)


There is sufficient media on both sides, and this both happens with both through-edits and not.

This new bug seems to have been introduced with the implementation of multiple audio transition editing. It seems like an unhelpful, unintended side-effect that was overlooked.

For sure, if the transition becomes 0s in duration on both sides, auto-clearing would be great. But when I'm specifically only trimming one end of a single transition with the Shift key, I want the transition to stay there and there's no reason for it to be cleared and removed.

Can you please fix? This has been slowing me down quite a bit.

Technical specs:
Version: 2025.4 and onward
Windows 11, but I doubt it's platform specific

[Ann Bens]

If you drag the end of the transition over the cut it will be deleted: normal behavior.

[defaultcfjxjh00wmdl]

This was not normal behaviour pre-2025.4 and it was significantly more useful before. I was trying to drag the transition onto the cut. I have snapping turned on. If I went WAY beyond, 20+ pixels, I'd understand. But I'm just trying to get close.

This new behaviour is much worse, and means I now have reposition transitions by clicking & dragging, then resize them after. Pre 2025.4 I could just resize the end that I don't want up to the cut point. It's turned one action into two and has made my workflow slower.

In a perfect world, I'd be using the "Apply Default Transition to Playhead," but that inexplicably fades in from silence and ignores surrounding clips. Really seems like it should crossfade when there's media shunted right up next to it.

[IanB_360]

Hi @defaultcfjxjh00wmdl 
I installed 25.3 and noticed a difference: the drag transition performed much more smoothly, as you say. 
I will check and see if this was removed for some reason. I do like how it does not delete on its own, even if the transition does not work at the cut. There is a difference in response and how it snaps. I will get back to you when I find out more.
here to help
Ian

[IanB_360]

Hi @defaultcfjxjh00wmdl 
I spoke with the audio engineers, and this design is as intended. The change removes fades when they are dragged off the edge of the clip. However, we will take note of what you are pointing out and keep an eye on this idea. Have you tried to create custom transitions or set the crossfade transitions to End at cut and then drag the head with shift to the frames you want? Or typing in the duration in the numerical column? I know we all have our particular style and workflows, just trying to see if there are options that would help you work as you were. 
Here to help.
Ian

[defaultcfjxjh00wmdl]

I spoke with the audio engineers, and this design is as intended.

Yeah, I was afraid of this. I've been figuring out a new workflow and trying to build some new muscle memory.

For me, if I'm holding down SHIFT, and (like in the image I shared) I'm trying to trim just the right side of the transition, once the right side is gone and has no width, I wouldn't want the left side to clear. The shift key makes me feel like I should only be trimming one side of the transition, so to have the other side suddenly clear when it's still a completely valid transition feels wrong.

So I guess my new question is this: what's the most expedient way to go from this:

...to this:


Every frame of the audio underneath the roomtone is bad so I can't leave it like this:


I've been using the keyboard shortcut CTRL+Shift+D to create the audio transitions, but I wish there was a better way, since that creates crossfades that sit overtop both pieces of media, and ends up including media I don't want to hear inside the transition.

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I wish I could drag from this icon...

...but although this does look like it creates a fade of the correct shape, it just makes the dialogue clip fade out to silence, and sadly does not fade into the "roomtone" clip and ignores it entirely😔 If I could hold SHIFT or something to make it fade into the touching clip instead of silence, I'd be all set!

I really wish I could use this un-assigned keyboard shortcut. This would be perfect... if it respected the surrounding media.

But sadly, while this again creates an audio transition of the correct shape and position, it also fades to silence and completely ignores the touching audio clip 😔

Is there perhaps a way to move this "roomtone" clip up, and make the overlapping media automatically have audio transitions like in Adobe Audition's Multitrack editor?

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There doesn't seem to be a good way using keyboard shortcuts or on screen icons to create a crossfade between two clips that's one-sided and sits entirely on one of the two clips.

I'm realizing now that dragging and dropping the audio transition from the effects panel allows me to do what I want to do, but I'd love to not have to keep the effects panel open and on screen all the time for something that I could use timeline icons or, better, keyboard shortcuts, to do instead