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Can you nudge or move a control point with the keyboard?

Enthusiast ,
Nov 28, 2017 Nov 28, 2017

As an example. I'm working with corner pinning.A frame by frame animation and it's tedious work. It would be very helpful if I could move the pinning control points with the keyboard instead of the mouse at times.

When the control point are closely grouped it's especially difficult like in the image below. I keep grabbing other keyframes accidentally and I'm zoomed in at 400%.

That's about 20 frames of animation showing and the movement is getting tighter and harder to work with.

Any help of suggestions is appreciated.

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Enthusiast , Jan 09, 2019 Jan 09, 2019

Hello Jim, if you're still in touch with this particular question/problem.

Well, I finally resolved this issue a couple months ago. I'd completely forgotten about this post and when I realize that I had asked about it this. I figured I would post a follow-up.
It's not a bug with Adobe. Or some kind of glitch within my computer. As it turns out, it's a simple mouse setting that solves the issue.

As it turns out, a gaming mouse reads the surface it is crossing up to 1000 times per second. The defaul

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LEGEND ,
Nov 28, 2017 Nov 28, 2017

After Effects can do this kind of tracking automatically.

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Enthusiast ,
Nov 29, 2017 Nov 29, 2017

Thanks for responding, but I'm talking about tracking 4 different points here.

Plus, the image has very little contrast. It would require 3D motion tracking and as you can see by the image.There's a lot of rotation.

Motion Tracking.png

What I need is an easier way to control the control points. The mouse works but it would be much easier to nudge the last pixels into place.

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LEGEND ,
Nov 29, 2017 Nov 29, 2017

It would require 3D motion tracking

Tracking 3D Camera Movement in After Effects

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LEGEND ,
Nov 29, 2017 Nov 29, 2017

Have you tried using the numerical controls in the Effect Controls panel to adjust your keyframe positions? Set the keyframe, then adjust the points numerically:

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Enthusiast ,
Nov 29, 2017 Nov 29, 2017

You know I haven't and it works pretty good.But for me, I always need to move the mouse back and forth a few times over the numbers before they will change for some reason.It's not smooth like it should be. I don't know why.If it was,that would make life so much easier.

Does scrubbing with the mouse go smoothly for you?

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Adobe Employee ,
Nov 29, 2017 Nov 29, 2017

Hi TerryS,

I would definitely do any screen replacement in MochaAE. Please look into it.

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio
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LEGEND ,
Nov 30, 2017 Nov 30, 2017

I always need to move the mouse back and forth a few times over the numbers before they will change for some reason.

That's a long standing bug that doesn't seem to affect everyone (which is maybe why Adobe's done nothing to correct it).

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Enthusiast ,
Dec 01, 2017 Dec 01, 2017

Ha ha, I discovered it's my mouse creating the problem. I broke out the Dell mouse that shipped with my computer and it worked flawlessly. I wasn't using that technique because it wasen't working well.

Now, it works great and I don't need nudging.Just holding the control key at the same time moves the control point slowly with precision.

I been using a Logitech gaming mouse for about 5 years now. Because it's large and comfortable to use.

However, I've had trouble most of those years.Never connected the dots.I've swapped the mouse out as a warrantied replacement several times over these years.   I think I'm going to shop for another brand large mouse. TODAY, lol

The left click button would stop working well intermittently after about 9 months.I would call Logitech and they would send me a replacement for free.I thought their support was fantastic.Wow, in reality. I've been fighting their inferior product all along.The one I was using the other day was brand new.

It's not Adobe fault apparently. It's user hardware. { Which makes more sense }

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LEGEND ,
Dec 02, 2017 Dec 02, 2017

It's not Adobe fault apparently. It's user hardware.

It may be a combination of both.  My mouse choice doesn't seem to make any difference for Premiere Pro.  And those same mice perform those same tasks in Resolve just fine.

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Community Expert ,
Dec 02, 2017 Dec 02, 2017

Did you try this trick with your original mouse? I does work for my mouse...

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Enthusiast ,
Jan 09, 2019 Jan 09, 2019
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Hello Jim, if you're still in touch with this particular question/problem.

Well, I finally resolved this issue a couple months ago. I'd completely forgotten about this post and when I realize that I had asked about it this. I figured I would post a follow-up.
It's not a bug with Adobe. Or some kind of glitch within my computer. As it turns out, it's a simple mouse setting that solves the issue.

As it turns out, a gaming mouse reads the surface it is crossing up to 1000 times per second. The default setting is 500 times per second. They call it the report rate. When I dropped the report rate to 250. That's all that was required for Premier Pro to read my mouse movements correctly.gaming mouse polling rate to 250.png

Standard non-gaming mice, have a report rate of 125 or less traditionally. I was actually switching to another mouse while editing in Premier Pro for quite some time before finally resolving this issue.

So hopefully, other people who have been tripped up by the same problem. May benefit from my year-long ordeal of aggravation. Because I like my large gaming mouse much better than a standard mouse.{:>)

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