Color Balance (HLS) - missing

[Miloň29383862iu9a]

Have a nice day.
Color Balance HLS effect stopped showing in Obsolete effects.
I've been using it practically daily, it's a huge deal for me!
Please put it back or tell me how to set H to -5 in a few steps.
Spinning every shot with wheels is complete nonsense.
I don't understand what was wrong with such a simple effect in the program that it had to go away.
Sorry for my English, Google.

[PaulMurphy · Accepted solution]

You can achieve a similar effect using the Hue vs Hue curve in the Lumetri Color panel.

1. Go to Window > Lumetri Color to open the Lumetri Color panel.
2. In the Lumetri Color panel, expand the Curves section and find Hue vs Hue.
3. Add a point to the curve and drag up the line to shift the overall hues.

It's also worth noting that effects in the Obsolete folder, including the Color Balance (HLS) effect, have been removed in Premiere Pro 24.6.

For more details, you can refer to this guide: Adjust Color Using RGB and HSL Curves.

[Miloň29383862iu9a]

And why so complicated?
And also inaccurate!
You can't set the value, it drags the mouse, yes, sometimes these functions come in handy, but for such a quick adjustment, it's unnecessary and inaccurate. 
The line is clicked and never clicked the same way and the result is not so good. Lengthy, unnecessarily laborious. Why why why??? I don't see a single reason to remove something as simple and functional as a simple number entry on three lines!!!
Terrible!!!

Is there any way to get the feature back?
Because of this, I went back to the original version, where zooming in on the timeline with the mouse does not work again. So I was finally happy that this was fixed in the new version and... Aaaaah

[defaultk3kuhqdjatsa]

I found a fix to this! Color Balance HLS is still in the program and coding, just doesn't show in the effects panels. If you have a project that uses it, and you open it in the new PR Pro Version, it still works and you can apply it to other clips. You can make it a preset for easy use and stilla djust it and everything. Hope this helps! 

[R Neil Haugen]

Mistaken assumption, at least according to the explanations given. about this action. And yes, the staffers have written about how to do this. And that it is not in the coding of 25.x, nor will be in any further ones.

There are some of the ancient-code obsolete effects that, if used in an old project migrated to the 25.x, the app can use the effect as present in the old one.

[Miloň29383862iu9a]

It would be enough to add an adjustment using a number to the HUE vs HUE function. To clearly see which part of the scale we are on. And it is solved.
But this has to be picked up before the original effects are removed, not the other way around!

[Miloň29383862iu9a]

Well, no, it wasn't enough. It just behaves differently. The result is ugly. Please give it back!

[VulpineAudio]

If this is still an issue for you, I found a solution that actually works. Go to Video Effects > Adjust > ProcAmp and apply ProcAmp to a clip. You will be able to keyframe the Hue to change over time, and set the hue change amount to a specific value. 

[Erfan25393417c4kv]

We can't add keyframes using HUE vs HUE. That's the problem. Sometimes when you want to make a meme and a fast color changing like old MLG memes, HLS was the best and effective way to do it quickly. I hope this effect find it's way back to Premiere Pro.

[R Neil Haugen]

That was ancient code, and ... several pro colorists I know had tested it, and found the math basis seriously flawed. It may seem quick and easy, but it's a badly designed mashup.

Yes, it would be nice to have say numbers available in the HSL curves, but ... make sure you have the Vectorscope up, and view the change in the scope as you apply changes to the curves. Practically, it can work, and work better than the old obsolete effects.

That said, I have complained over the EOL decision for SpeedGrade years ago, to the point of being clearly disliked by a previous Premiere manager, even though I was always ... politely, if constantly ... noting the problems that would come from that choice. For Adobe and the users.

I've politely requested massive upgrades in Lumetri since it appeared, as it does have many limitations. Even if in most cases the math involved is far better than most of the Obsolete effects used. Still, it could use some work.

And the 25.x public beta includes massive further changes. Needed, but of course, as video color is actually pretty complex ... I'll be needing to help a lot of people through the changes coming.

[VulpineAudio]

It may have been ancient code, but at least it worked. An alternative of nothing is nothing. 

[alhaem_2369]

somebody needs to find a solution on how to bring this effect back rather than giving useless alternatives. Its like asking for an apple and recieving an orange instead

[R Neil Haugen · Accepted solution]

Sorry. but it isn't coming back. I miss a couple of the obsolete things myself, so I do understand.

That said, for anything color, there's newer code with better math anyway in the newer effects.

[VulpineAudio]

There has to be a new effect coming which will allow hue shifting to be keyframed. This is a basic feature that any other editing software can easily accomplish. What happened?

[R Neil Haugen]

If applied in Lumetri as a specific effect, of course you would keyrame that instance. And many of the internal tools of Lumetri can be keyframed individually, such as the Basic tab controls, much of Creative tab, and the color wheels.

But the whole effect can as stated also be keyframed.

[VulpineAudio]

Hello Neil. I did find the solution to this issue: Go to Video Effects > Adjust > ProcAmp and apply ProcAmp to a clip. You will be able to keyframe the Hue to change over time, and set the hue change amount to a specific value. 

Please help spread this info to people who are confused by the HLS effect removal!

[VulpineAudio]

If this is still an issue for you, I found a solution that actually works. Go to Video Effects > Adjust > ProcAmp and apply ProcAmp to a clip. You will be able to keyframe the Hue to change over time, and set the hue change amount to a specific value. 

[rnm]

*Thank* you. No lecture about what's best for users; just the answer I was looking for.

[Fritz Tobello]

THANK YOUUU!!

[jack_1680]

Another completely pointless and damaging move from Adobe

[R Neil Haugen]

What specific thing were you using it for?

[mikep37103446]

HLS adjustments 🙂

Mostly tweaking logo colours with clients next to me on supers. Now all the old projects will be broken on newer builds forever.

[R Neil Haugen]

Two things ... yea, I understand the frustration as I lost a couple thingsI had preferred. 

Second, being as they were in the Obsolete bin, and clearly would  go away at some point, I stopped using anything in the Obsolete bin several years ago due to simple self-preservation, I guess you could say.

[PaulMurphy]

Also, these retired effects are still supported in your old projects, you just won't be able to add them from the Effects panel anymore.

[tomas267111522q7o]

I tink they deleted it, but I found an alternative to it! its called "ProcAmp" It's in Video Effects>Adjust>ProcAmp