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Constant Lagging In Premiere Pro Timeline (Latest Update 14.4)

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October 12, 2020
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Hello,

I edit for a living so it is frustrating that any change in my timeline on Premiere Pro, it lags. I have to constantly wait a few seconds with each change. Obviously, this isn't sustainable so any help would be REALLY appreciated. I have followed every youtube tutorial on the settings inside the software to make it run fast and nothing has helped. Today, I ran the task manager (shown below) and this is when I realized when I play the timeline in the software, the memory shoots up to almost fall capacity, so I'm guessing this is the main problem... I need more RAM. I'm Just wondering if it could be anything else? Do I need an internal SSD storage, if so what for? Could it be the latest prem pro Update? What RAM should I get? Can my GPU be used more or not?

I run my files and profile files on my desktop

I deal with 1920x1080 footage and around 50-100gb at a time

Here are my PC specs:

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Processor

RAM: 16 GB / Storage: 2 TB HDD & 512 GB SSD

Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super 8 GB

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Correct answer r1ch3s

@Michael Grenadier @Phillip Harvey @Ehfaz Zoha

Tested out proxies last night and it worked like a treat thank you so much for all your help. Extra RAM is on its way soon too.

With proxies, just to confirm... Right-click on the footage > proxy > create proxies > Quicktime & low-resolution proxy. Then you can turn it off on as you wish and when exporting it will render without the proxy automatically?

Just want to make sure that is all correct and settings are all right. Thanks again!

sssss7008252

Known Participant

Its clearly an issue - I experience exactly the same symptoms.

I am a S/W developer, and this seems like poor S/W engineering and/or QA.

Used to work fine - same project, same computer, previous version of Pro CC 2019.

Now it's NOT

While proxies might be a solution, it;s like saying - drive your porche at 20 mph - and it will go smooth.

It really is NOT the solution, and just a cheap workaround for poor programming.

So now, I have to waste disc space, AND TIME, to render these proxies, simply because the S/W has degraded to the point that it cannot do, what it used to be able to do, in previous versions.

That makes no sense whatsoever.

Adobe - when will you address the real performance/stability issues with the product?

The timline LAG, is a known issue, and the forums are alive with comments about it. Can you please provide an adequate response to this issue, AND train your support personnel to be of help, debugging/resolving these issues, when we (paid customers) are calling for support? (instead of getting the boilerplate response of "throw more H/W at the problem)

Kevin-Monahan

Community Manager

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If deleting media cache does not assist you, please give your system specs and media type so we can assist. Problem is that the most common media type is also the least performant. And between AMD and Intel CPUs, the former does not have hardware decoding capability. So, it's not as cut and dried as you make it. You have to have a balanced system and workflow and it's been that way since the dawn of NLE time.

That said, download the beta version which will be better for those running cheaper AMD CPU setups via using the GPU for decoding, not the CPU. Might work better in your case. Hope we can help.

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio

sssss7008252

Known Participant

Thanks Kevin,

I reported my system specs in another thread, here :

Adobe Premiere Pro CC 14.4 Overall Slow Performance

Would it be possible to take a look at that thread?

Via my own debugging, I think I've at least identified the known Warp Stab <data-inside-project-file> as one very key element to the overall system performance degradation. With a project file of 120Mb, it contains about 30 x Stabilized clips - and I think this is also problematic on the timeline editor performance, despite using the gloabal fx mute.

My system performance degradation is measured over a few months, and with no change in my workflow or media types - so my metric for performance is based on a known baseline. Using this method, seems to suggest that something else is changing over time - either the O/S, and/or the Application S/W.

Yes - I work with very common media types HD and 4k, and again - that all used to work fine, but not anymore.

Kevin-Monahan

Community Manager

Oliver,

I can understand the frustration. Your system simply is not optimized for H.264 editing since you have an AMD CPU. The Intel CPU/GPUs are the ones to have for better playback performance. I suggest you either use proxies or transcode for the time being.

In the fututre, your computer performance with Premiere Pro should be a lot better. You can download the beta from the Creative Cloud application to test out much better decoding performance with H.264 files. See if that works better for your system. Otherwise, transcode or create proxies would be where I'd aim.

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio

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r1ch3sAuthor

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Thank you Kevin, I will look into doing these!

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Ehfaz Zoha

Participant

Hello, I've been having the same issues here with premiere pro. I have v14.4 and when I hit play its taking around 5-10 seconds to actually start play. Additionally, it also freezes and says not responding every couple edits I make. It's really frustrating and it makes the edting process much more time consuming. I'm editing video game footage (~10 gigs) and this is a new problem...I have never experienced this before even with larger files. Also, the specs of my computer are not to blame since I have task manager open and the highest component used was ram at 70% but nothing more.

Specs:

Ryzen 3 1200 quad core processor @3.1 Ghz

Gtx 1050 Ti

8 Gig RAM

256 Gb SSD (where I keep Premiere installed)

1 Tb HDD (where I keep my footage)

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r1ch3sAuthor

Inspiring

Seems like we have the exact same issue. Did it happen recently to you? and do you use multicam? maybe we should try a much older version.

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Michael Grenadier

Legend

video game footage is usually variable frame rate which is problematic in premiere

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro/faq-issues-with-screen-recorded-footage-in-premiere-pro/td-p/10874355?page=1

use mediainfo to determine whether your source is variable or constant frame rate

https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo/Download

if it's variable use handbrake to convert to constant frame rate

https://handbrake.fr
and here's a tutorial on how to use handbrake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=34&v=xlvxgVREX-Y

and for multicam projects I strongly recommend a proxy workflow.

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Phillip Harvey

Community Expert

What kind of media are you working with? And what is going on in the timeline? Are you doing multicamera editing? Using any other effects?

Did this issue only start when you changed versions?

The GPU is utilized for certain effects and operations, but your CPU is going to be the most leveraged for editing. In a future update there'll be GPU-acceleration for certain codecs so the GPU can help more with a few of the more inefficient media types.

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r1ch3sAuthor

Inspiring

50-100GB of 1920x1080p footage a project. I'm using multicamera yes, with 4-8 POV's at a time, mostly 4. I was fine editing with it for a month then it progressively got worse, could have been an update, I'm not too sure. Is there a version that is much more secure?

Kevin-Monahan

Community Manager

Oliver,

Sorry. Make sure you have tried deleting media cache.

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio

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Michael Grenadier

Legend

what are your source properties and your sequence settings? More RAM is a good idea. I'm assuming that the SSD is your boot drive and the media resides on the HDD. SSD's are generally going to be better than HDD. Hopefully your HDD is 7200 rpm. Have you checked your graphics card to see if it meets the minimum specs?

https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/system-requirements.html