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November 16, 2024
Question

copying edit sequences into another sequence is swapping multicam shots

  • November 16, 2024
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I've noticed a horrifying (for me) bug: when I drag & drop (or copy & paste) edit sequences into a compile sequence, my multicam shots are being swapped over at random.
 
This compile editing is all being done with the "insert and overwrite sequences as nests or individual clips" switch on my edit timeline set to bringing in sequences as individual clips. When I edit in each of these stories as a nested sequence, the multicamera shots don't change (and there are only two camera angles on the multicamera shots)
 
The solution is to edit these source sequences from my source monitor into my program monitor (and the multicams are staying selected as they should be); but I don 't understand why drag & drop from my project window, or copy & paste from other timelines is causing my multicams to randomly swap multicam sources, but fortunately I can edit from a sequence in my source monitor into another sequence in my program monitor, and the multicam clips aren't swapping.
 
I'm compiling stories into segments in a productions project, I'm not sure if that's a factor (each story is created in it's own project, and then copied into the segment project)
Is there a basic premise of editing here in Premiere Pro that I've missed? MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2021)
Apple M1 16 inch Max Macbook Pro
64gb ram
Mac OSX 15.1
Premiere Pro 24.6.3
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Known Participant
November 21, 2024

Not sure if it is related, but I was having issues with multicams being updated where 2 multicams exist with the same UUID (i.e. where project is duplicated and multicams then amended). THere's a workaround in my post:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-beta-bugs/multicam-from-project-1-changes-when-project-2-opened/idc-p/14994650#M4656

jamieclarke
Community Manager
Community Manager
November 20, 2024

Hi @Andrew C. Brinsmead -  That’s fantastic! We understand how frustrating it can be when the app isn’t working, so we truly appreciate your patience and efforts in troubleshooting.  We’re glad to hear you’re back up and running.  Please don’t hesitate to reach out if you encounter any other issues.

Inspiring
November 20, 2024

Unfortunately I posted too soon; deleting & replacing  my user settings temporarily stopped the issue, but all of the issues have returned, inconsistently.  Sometimes the issues. (Can't edit/ video output sawpping etc) don't occur, then randomly they do. I even have a scary new issue: my multi am clips are displaying wrong source time code.  I'm trying to limp through to the finishing line on my current project, relying on my work arounds (importing edit sequences between projects & clearing out my source monitor when grading), then I'll have to seriously review what's causing these issues. 

Inspiring
November 21, 2024

Also, I'm having to continually relaunch the premiere pro software, because various functions stop working; top of the list is Frame.IO - exporting to frame.IO using the "review in frame.IO" window often stops working - when I go to upload a clip using the "upload" command in the frame.IO window, my system hangs up on exporting the clip to media encoder; so I've found myself having to relaunch Premiere Pro constantly.  A work around that I've found this is to just export clips from Premiere Pro and then upload them as files using the frame.IO window in PP (these exports take seconds when done manually, instead of hanging up my system when using the "upload" command via the Frame.IO window)


Also, I can't drag or copy & paste clips between projects in PP (I can however import a clip form one project to another, but once again, this is a very slow process)

Inspiring
November 19, 2024

Thanks @jamieclarke  WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!  (sorry for shouting! 😉 but I've had several weeks of severe pain with this - to the point where I was contemplating moving systems!!!).  I've started to use Premiere Pro with a completely refreshed / rebuilt user preferences folder (the 24.0 folder), and I've removed all the previous user preference folders, so far - very good! 

I'll have to keep testing this solution - but already I can do the exact kind of edit (sequence from one project in my source monitor into a sequence from another project in  my program monitor).  I've done a few test edits - and they've all worked as they should; I'll keep editing during the day & let you know how it goes.

This has also fixed another issue that I was having - when I adjusted a colour effect in the Lumetri panel (on a clip in my program timeline seqeunce), the video output (and video scopes) kept reverting back to the source monitor output - this is now fixed too!  Double points for you @jamieclarke 

PS: @Jarle Leirpoll  & @R Neil Haugen   thanks for your help - it looks like @jamieclarke  has found the answer!!! 

Inspiring
November 19, 2024

Thanks @jamieclarke  I'm trying that now; I've just replaced my user settings (although it's interesting that a lot of my previous settings have appeared (I think this was done automatically from my 23.0 settings folder, so I'm going to remove all of my previous user settings (going back to 12.0…) from the documents / adobe / Premiere Pro folder)

Inspiring
November 19, 2024

Hi Jarle, thanks, but  I haven't changed the camera angle order in these multicam shots - I followed a very consistent approach when constructing my multicams (not hard when there's only two cameras, and I knew from the outset which was camera A & which was camera B), so the multicam camera angles haven't been changed internally at any stage.  While grading some shots I have turned the b camera layer on & off for viewing at times, but otherwise, I haven't changed the order of these cameras

Legend
November 19, 2024

FYI: A friend of mine thinks this may be related to editing the camera order in the Source Monitor. He says it seems this is only affecting edits where the cameras have been edited to a new order. Also, Match Frame twice will match to the wrong camera when they have been edited.

jamieclarke
Community Manager
Community Manager
November 19, 2024

Hi @Andrew C. Brinsmead - Thank you for the screen recording, that is strange.  Can you try one thing for me first backup your settings folder (24.0) and then go to Documents > Adobe > Premiere Pro > and delete the 24.0 folder.  Then launch Premiere Pro and let us know if that helps your issue.

Inspiring
November 18, 2024

I've worked out how to add the video (you'll note that I toggle the "insert or overwrite clips as nest button" to no avail)

jamieclarke
Community Manager
Community Manager
November 18, 2024

Hi @Andrew C. Brinsmead - Would you be able to provide a screen recording of the issue you are experiencing?

Inspiring
November 17, 2024

(sorry - too many typos in my first answer! "Dang you iphone late at night!!!!😖")

What I meant to say was: 

Yes- with this production, when I "copy & paste" or "drag & drop" sequences from one sequence to another, sometimes my multi-camera angles will change, so I can't rely on "copy & paste" or  "drag & drop" to move around sequences in different projects in my production without changing them. To add to this, I can't perfrom an insert or over write edit from one timeline to a timeline in a different project in the same production.