Delete Button grayed out in transcription

[richard_3982]

I am attempting to delete filler words, however after I transcribe my media, the button is grayed out and it will not let me delete them.  When I select "pauses" the button becomes active and I'm able to delete the pauses.

I am using Version 25.1.0 (Build 73)

[Sumeet Kumar Choubey]

Hi richard_3982,

We're sorry about the poor experience. We can get this checked. When you set the filter to Pauses, does it recognize the Filler words as Pauses?

Thanks,

Sumeet

[richard_3982]

No, I selected a pause and the "filler words" is still selected in the pull down menu and the delete button is still grayed out.

[richard_3982]

No, I don’t think so. I selected a pause from the transcript and the button is still grayed out.

Rick

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[Stan Jones]

@richard_3982,

I suspect you have no filler words. I do not see any in your screenshot. A filler word appears as "[filler]" just as a pause appears as "[...]".

If you have no filler words, you will not see any in the transcription and the delete button will be greyed out.

Was the transcription created in an earlier version of PR?

Stan

[richard_3982]

Thanks!  This has happened with at least 5 other clips.  I've gone through them and found many filler words, so I know they're in there.  One thing I do is duplicate previous sequences and then delete the old media add the new media to them.  Then I transcribe.  I' ve also read that there might be something regarding transcribing from the media instead of from the sequence, but I can't replicate that, if it's an issue.

Rick

[Stan Jones]

Thanks, Rick.

First, text-based editing functions are not always intuitive and trouble-shooting can be confusing. This is what I believe about when we do and do not see filler words and options.

A static transcription of a sequence does NOT identify filler words, has Filler words unchecked and greyed out in the Transcript view options, and does not include Filler words as an option in the Text panel/transcript tab filter.

A source media transcription identifies filler words, you can show them or not using the Filler words toggle in the Transcript view options, includes Filler words as an option in the Text panel/transcript tab filter, and shows the delete button only if you are in Program monitor/sequence view.

If you filter by Filler words, whether there are any or not, the Filler words toggle is checked and greyed out in the Transcript view options.

The "view" determines what transcript you see. So always note whether you have "Follow active monitor" checked (bottom left of the Text panel/transcript tab), or manually select Program Monitor (static/sequence) vs Source Monitor (source media) transcript. You can transcribe only the sequence (static transcript), only the source media transcripts, or both. If there is only one or more source media transcript(s), the sequence view will be the transcript contents that remain based on the edits.

> I've gone through them and found many filler words, so I know they're in there.

Are they identified as filler words (i.e. [Filler])? Or you actually see text such as "uhm"?

> duplicate previous sequences and then delete the old media add the new media to them. Then I transcribe.

I don't believe this should create a problem. But, as noted above only source media transcriptions will identify filler words.

Stan

[richard_3982]

Thank you for your help!

So, I'm not selecting "static transcription" when I first transcribe the clip.  However, after I've transcribed, I see that the filler words check box in the text panel is greyed out.  Am I transcribing wrong?  I just click on the transcribe button when I load my media into the record window from the sequence and go to "text".

I have the "follow active monitor" check box seleted wneh I transcribe.  Where can I tell if I'm in program monitor/sequence view?  I usually double-click my media from the sequence and then go to "text" and transcribe.

They used to be indetified as [filler], but now I don't see any of them.

Rick

[Stan Jones]

So you appear to have source media transcripts. To confirm, in the transcript tab, click the 3 dot menu. If it has an option for "Generate static transcript...," you have source media transcripts. If it has an option for "Generate text-based editing transcript...," you have a static/sequence transcript. In the latter case, you may also have source media transcripts. To "remove" the static transcript and return to source media/dynamic transcripts, select the "Generate text-based editing transcript" option.

There are multiple ways to transcribe source media. I think the method you are using should be fine.

In the screenshot below, the highlighted icon, as shown by the tooltip, is the sequence/timeline/Program Monitor view. The icon to the left is the Source Monitor view. With "Follow active monitor" checked (I prefer this), if you click in the timeline, you will be in Program Monitor/timeline view. You see the source media transcript of what remains of your clip after editing. And in this view, you can delete filler words and pauses. If you double-click on the clip, it opens in the Source Monitor, and when you switch to the Text panel/transcript tab, you will see that the left icon is highlighted, and it is in Source monitor view. You see the whole transcript of the clip. You should see any filler words/pauses that have been identified, and you can filter by them. But the delete button will never be active, because you cannot delete part of the file itself. You can delete them in sequence view.

 

If this is not making sense, or you are still not seeing filler words, some screenshots might help.

Stan