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openskies2009
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April 10, 2017
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Disable Auto Keyframing in Track Effects

  • April 10, 2017
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I have a audio tracks pointing to a audio sub track which I've applied an EQ effect. When I'm tweaking this effect it auto generates keyframes in the track properties when Im playing back trying to correctly EQ the whole track. How do I disable the effect fro keyframing at all?

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Correct answer mstegner

What you are describing is the audio automation system, specifically that it appears to be in Touch mode.  In Prmeiere, you can record paramter actions while playing and they will be written as keyframes and played back.

 

For Clip Effects: Look in the Audio Clip Mixer, and the keyframe button to the right of the Mute and Solo buttons. If it is highlighted blue, any parameter changes made during playback will be written as keyframes.

 

For Track Effects: In the Audio track Mixer, look for the dropdown underneath the pan knob, and make sure it is set to Read or Off, and not to Touch, Latch, or Write. If it is set to "Touch, Latch, or Write" new audio track keyframes will be written during playback.

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Anthony5ECB
Known Participant
March 22, 2023

2023 and this is still more complicated than it should be. I have a track plugin set to "read". All I have to do is click out of Premiere or out of the Track FX window then click back in and it resets to "touch". Setting it to "read" does not leave it on "read", so I have to keep resetting it! Even when I turn it off, it keeps going back to touch. 

 

Making it more seamless for users that want to live-keyframe track FX is fine, but then make it seamless for those who have absolutely no need for it and want to lock and disable it for good. With no clear or reliable way to actually full-stop disable it or (maybe my biggest problem right now) make it easier to track down which FX have been keyframed, it's a really annoying experience. Some build-in plugins have many parameters, and third party plugins are worse. A third party plugin can have over 100 different parameters. You might have a few parameters burried in this gigantic list of parameters that have keyframes and the only way you can check which ones they are is to either remember every single setting you messed with or go through them ONE BY ONE in order to find the keyframes, select and delete them. I have a pretty standard VO recording that needs to be tonally consistent from beginning to end. I do not need a single keyframe, but after a rogue "touch" setting enabling itself over and over, I have to constantly check if its on "read" or "touch" or waste time going back and deleting keyframes, or start from scratch. 

 

We need a nuclcear option for this. How about a button with a lock icon that will fully disable "touch"? Or setting it to "read" will actually leave it on "read" until you want to change the setting? Or if you select the dropdown, there's a little dot next to only the parameters that have keyframes? Or a button that says "show only parameters with keyframes" or "delete all keyframes". 

schwarzlicht
schwarzlicht
Known Participant
March 30, 2023

The problem always occurs to me when playing a loop in the effect settings. However, when I play in the sequence window and create a loop there with in to out points, no keyframes are set during playback while I change the parameters.

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mstegnerCommunity Manager
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March 30, 2023

@schwarzlicht

For clarification, you are seeing this issue for clips based volume and effects?  Or for Track based?  They are two different systems with different UI.  Most of the conversation in this thread is around Track based automation, not clip based.  

Clip based, particularly when manipulating items in the Effects Control panel will drop keyframes automatically.  This is how it is designed.

Andrew L. Wyatt
Andrew L. Wyatt
New Participant
March 29, 2022

Your track is set to either Touch, Latch, or Write. Click the dropdown menu and change Touch, Latch, or Write to Read or Off. This will prevent your audio track from adding keyframes every time you adjust a knob or slider.

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mstegnerCommunity Manager
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March 29, 2022

"The problem occurs when playing a loop in the effect settings. The settings in the Clip Mixer do not change this for me."

 

Yes, the recordable parameter automation system is the "Touch" system detailed above.  

 

There is also the animation system that can be applied to effects parameters being manipulated in the Effects Controls panel.  
In the Effects Controls panel, it will open the effect that is creating the keyframes, then twirl open the "Individual Parameters" sub-section.  You will be presented with a long list of the effects parameters.  Next to each parameter is a stopwatch icon.  If it is blue it means that any parameter changes will be keyframed as the clip is played.

 

schwarzlicht
schwarzlicht
Known Participant
December 5, 2020

I have now found a simple solution. The problem occurs when playing a loop in the effect settings. The settings in the Clip Mixer do not change this for me. But if you play a loop from the in point to the out point in the Sequence window when working with the equalizer, no keyframes are set.

kulpreet singh
kulpreet singh
Inspiring
April 10, 2017

Hi openskies2009,

Could you please elaborate this more?

You can also attach screenshots to explain. 

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Thanks,

Kulpreet Singh

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openskies2009Author
Inspiring
April 10, 2017

It seems that "safe during write" has something to do with it? But I have to stop playing the playhead for me to adjust any effect

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