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Edited Video exports way too bright

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February 20, 2022
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i am making a really simple video - just some facial close ups i filmed on my iphone, but when i put it onto premier pro and then export it, it basically makes the whole face pure white and i havent even adjusted any of the colours, exposure etc... plz help!!

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rjkidder

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Project export is washed out, too bright

I'm a new user of Premiere Pro 2024 (v24.5.0) on my MBP (Sonoma 14.6.1) and the video sales piece I've completed —while looking great on both of my displays— is washed out when exported to MPG4. Here is a screenshot of a sample frame side-by-side comparing a frame inside of PP with the same frame exported to QuickTime. (So it's not a monitor color problem.)
The photographer in me says my whole video is a full f-stop overexposed but I'm guessing this is a gamma problem somewhere in settings.
Whenever I search the web for various fixes, invariably I cannot drive to the same menu settings suggested. I can only assume that PP22024 has changed where the settings were to have been found in earlier versions.

I haven't customized any pre-sets...I'm just stumbling my way through. My goal is to upload this to YouTube or local real estate sites. (Trying to sell our condo online).
Like many Adobe subscribers, I can use Media Encoder to help thats's the way to go. I just want to do it "right".
Thanks in advance for your help!
Robert

R Neil Haugen

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You aren't setting your color management correctly. It's not a "gamma" issue, and I've no understanding why people think incorrect color management is a "gamma" issue.

That appears to be HLG color space media, a form of HDR. Except used on a Rec.709 sequence, without correctly interpreting the footage for Rec.709/SDR color space. So it's exported incorrectly.

Go to the Settings tab of the Lumetri panel. Turn on Display Color Management, auto detect log, auto tonemapping, and set the sequence to Rec.709.

Do not then use export presets with either HLG or PQ in the presets name.

And the viewer gamma is your choice. This only changes the way the file is displayed by the way. As you correct the file different with one setting or another.

Gamma 2.4/broadcast should be used IF you are "grading" in a pretty dark room.

Gamma 2.2/web should be used if you are working in a normally bright room while doing corrections.

Gamma 1.96/QuickTime should be used if you are on a Mac without Reference modes for the monitor, and only care about how the file looks on yours or other Macs without Reference modes. As it will be a bit too dark everywhere else.

VLC and Potplayer may give a more normal or closer to correct view of files outside Premiere than QuickTime Player, on Macs without Reference modes.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

rjkidder

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Thanks, Mr. Haugen...I'll get on it and see whether I can follow your exact steps.
'Very respectful for your time and expertise.

Robert

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Kiichi28170984yow3

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Using SDR checkbox in Media Encoder helped in my case.

Sample Video

R Neil Haugen

Legend

With every update, not just full releases, they are changing things some to a fair amount. This is now a usable option for this, which ... it wasn't only what, three months ago?

So thanks for pointing this out!

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

R Neil Haugen

Legend

The underlying color system and defaults for Pr2022 are completely rebuilt from all previous versions. Your iPhone is defaulting to shooting in HLG, an HDR format. Very few screens out there actually work well if at all with HDR media yet, though that will change fairly quickly I expect.

Premiere is showing those clips as HLG ... you need to go to the clips in the bin, right-click/Modify/Interpret Footage, and use the Override option set to Rec.709. Make sure in the Sequence settings that your timeline color space is set to Rec.709 and it should all work correctly.

I'll include a couple FAQs on what has changed, how to work within the new system, what's currently broken, and how to setup a monitor for HDR in Pr2022 if you really want to do so.

Neil

FAQ:PremierePro 2022 Color Management for Log/RAW Media

How to Set Monitors for HDR work in Premiere Pro 2022?

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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Myphototrail

Inspiring

Hi Neil - I'm having the same issue with the exported video being too bright/washed out. Never had this issue until this year. If I access my clips in the bin and right-click/modify/interpret...the Color Management is set to "Use Media Color Space from File; Rec 709". And the working space of my sequence is Rec. 709. In Premiere's General preferences I added a check for "Display color Management" which darkens the image during edit...but still too bright when exported. I've been reading the links...but I'm at a complete loss how to fix this.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

"Too bright when exported" ... viewed by what player on what type of system?

I'm expecting say QuickTime or Chrome/Safari on a Mac ... why? Because the Mac ColorSync color management utility was created with a bizarre non-standard choice: gamma 1.96, rather than the expected Rec.709/Bt.1886 gamma of 2.4.

Or even the semi-web 'standard' (normal practice) of gamma 2.2.

So it lifts the shadows and mid values quite a bit, compared to the same image on a normal Rec.709/Bt.1886 system.

So, if that's the basis of your problem ... your on a Mac ... um. Sorry. If you're not on a Mac, then do say on, because we can probably fix the problem!

And yea, that's a problem on Macs, and unfortunately there ain't no 'solution'. There are choices ... each with issues.

First is the Adobe offering of a LUT to be used at export, that darkens the image so it looks similar on that 1.96 gamma display as it did while working in Premiere. Great, right?

Well ... not really. It "works" only as long as you show that media on a Mac in Qt/Chrome/Safari. On anything else, working with a standard gamma, it's now way too dark in mids/shadows.

Resolve has the "Rec.709-A" option, that A is definitely for Apple, and it changes the second of the three NCLC tags so that oddly enough Colorsync now shows that file with gamma 2.4. However ... most Rec.709 compliant systems will show that file too dark ... exactly like they would the LUT-exported file from Adobe.

And the colorists I work for and with, mostly all Mac people of course, are 1) FURIOUS at Apple for this stupid choice that create this mess and 2) don't have any solution that fixes both 'sides'.

One thing to realize ... that Colorsync utility does this to all Rec.709 media. So ... anyone with a Mac watching pro-produced SDR media is watching media produced on a Rec.709 compliant system, but viewed with the Mac 1.96 gamma. And probably not noting anything "wrong" because it looks like all other "pro produced media" on that system.

What anyone is used to watching stuff on seems "normal" to them.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...