Encoding to MPEG2 with Embedded Closed Captions?

Explorer ,
Jan 25, 2018 Jan 25, 2018

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I have a 28:30 show that needs to be closed captioned for broadcast.  The station needs an MPEG2 with embedded CC, not a sidecar file.  It still seems that Adobe can't handle this.  Can anyone recommend any service that can do this?  We may have to switch to a new system to complete this task.

Here are their specs:

VIDEO Format: MPEG2 (PS)

Bit Rate Mode: Constant Bit Rate: 8000 kBps

Width: 720 pixels

Height: 480 pixels

Display aspect ratio: 4x3

Format                                   : MPEG Video

Format version                       : Version 2

Format profile                        : Main@Main

Format settings, BVOP          : Yes

Format settings, Matrix          : Custom

Format settings, GOP             : M=3, N=15

Frame Rate: 29.970 fps

Standard: NTSC

Color space                            YUV

Chroma subsampling             4:2:0

Scan type                             : Interlaced

Scan order                            : Top field first

Compression mode                : Lossy

AUDIO Format: MPEG1

Version: Layer 2 Mode: Stereo (or dual mono)

Channel(s)                               : 2 channels

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate: 128 kBps - 384 kBps

Sample rate: 48000 Hz

Compression mode                         : Lossy

VIDEO Format: MPEG2 (PS)

Bit Rate Mode: Constant Bit Rate: 8000 kBps

Width: 720 pixels

Height: 480 pixels

Display aspect ratio: 4x3

Format                                   : MPEG Video

Format version                       : Version 2

Format profile                        : Main@Main

Format settings, BVOP          : Yes

Format settings, Matrix          : Custom

Format settings, GOP             : M=3, N=15

Frame Rate: 29.970 fps

Standard: NTSC

Color space                            YUV

Chroma subsampling             4:2:0

Scan type                             : Interlaced

Scan order                            : Top field first

Compression mode                : Lossy

AUDIO Format: MPEG1

Version: Layer 2 Mode: Stereo (or dual mono)

Channel(s)                               : 2 channels

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate: 128 kBps - 384 kBps

Sample rate: 48000 Hz

Compression mode                         : Lossy

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jan 25, 2018 Jan 25, 2018

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Just curious: where are the CC specs? 608, 708?

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Explorer ,
Jan 29, 2018 Jan 29, 2018

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Stan,

CC specs are 608.

Thanks!

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New Here ,
May 25, 2018 May 25, 2018

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We are running into the same problem with one of our broadcast stations and have tried several other options with no luck, Can anyone explain why adobe premiere can not embed captioning into an mpeg2 file when so many other NLEs can.  They handle to 608/708 captions well and can embed them into mxf files but not mpeg2 files which is what a lot of people are wanting.  thank you.

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LEGEND ,
May 25, 2018 May 25, 2018

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You can use the MPEG 2 codec in an MXF file.  That's what XDCAM is.

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New Here ,
May 25, 2018 May 25, 2018

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Will this Create a .mpg file or a .mxf file?

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New Here ,
May 25, 2018 May 25, 2018

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I just tried what you said Jim_Simon and it creates a .MXF file and that will not work.  I need to out put a .mpg file and nothing else will work for the station.  Thank you for trying to help.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 25, 2018 May 25, 2018

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What if you changed mxf extension to mpg.

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New Here ,
May 25, 2018 May 25, 2018

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1st test seems to work I will update once i send station full show and they test it out on their server.

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New Here ,
Jun 08, 2018 Jun 08, 2018

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Well, I have tried to rename the file .mpg and the file was not excepted.  I have tried everything that i know to get an MPeg-2 file with embedded 608 and 708.  Everything I have tried has been rejected by the station.

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New Here ,
Feb 20, 2020 Feb 20, 2020

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If you are running a Mac you can use Compressor to put it into program stream for broadcast stations. I recently got a Windows desktop and I'm still looking for a program that will work with that. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/compressor/id424390742?mt=12

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New Here ,
Jul 06, 2020 Jul 06, 2020

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Did this work for you? It looks like compressor only works with final cut pro, not premiere.

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New Here ,
Nov 19, 2020 Nov 19, 2020

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This works for me. I export a uncompressed video from premiere and than load that video into compressor and it will wrap it. still a pain though that premiere can't!

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New Here ,
Jun 29, 2022 Jun 29, 2022

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@jhiles1 That's really encouraging that compressor worked for you. I keep getting an error message (something about a laguage error) when i try to export an mpeg2 and scc closed captions file. Could you tell me what steps you took to make this work?

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New Here ,
Jun 29, 2022 Jun 29, 2022

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Sorry,,, i'm trying to export an mpeg2 file with embedded cc using an mpg exported from Premiere Pro and an scc file.

Thanks for any help.

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New Here ,
Jun 29, 2022 Jun 29, 2022

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I use this with premiere and deliver to at least 10 different stations. I export as .H264 with a .scc sidecar file, then put them into compressor and use the mpeg 2 program stream setting. 

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New Here ,
Jun 29, 2022 Jun 29, 2022

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@april - that's what i've been trying to do but obviously i'm missing a step 🙂 

I'm using Premiere Pro to edit with and then export out an mp4 and scc,,,, import them into compressor, click on Batch and am instantly greeted with an error message..... very frustrating.🤬🤬🤬

 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jun 29, 2022 Jun 29, 2022

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Robert, I know little about compressor, but it seems to me that the exact error message is critical. Screenshot if you don't have the exact language?

April, thanks for the input. What are the H.264 export settings? Some users with this workflow would export a lossless intermediate? Does compressor re-transcode?

 

Stan

 

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New Here ,
Jul 25, 2022 Jul 25, 2022

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Has anyone found a solution to this problem? I am having this problem and it is really frustrating. 

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Jul 26, 2022 Jul 26, 2022

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Hey Michael,,,, i was finally able to get compressor to to cooperate but it'll only export an mp4 with CC. When i put the mp4 into my station's video server for airing, the file metadata said "No Captions Present".

You are correct,,, very frustrating.

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