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Everytime i cut a audio track. The end of the video has a dot sound

Participant ,
Aug 31, 2021 Aug 31, 2021

Its always happening to me. Is there a way to fix this?

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Valorous Hero , Aug 31, 2021 Aug 31, 2021

Without knowing more, my guess is you're hearing a click which is very common when cutting audio because you're not performing a cut on a "Zero Crossing" which is when your waveform intersects the 0db line. You can read a little more about what I'm referring to here: https://steinberg.help/wavelab_elements/v9.5/en/wavelab/topics/audio_files_editing/zero_crossing_c.html

and here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_crossing 

 

Audition does actually have a command to adjust the time to zero crossi

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Participant ,
Aug 31, 2021 Aug 31, 2021

Video is H264 MP4

CPU render

I5 8500

GTX 1050 TI

16 GB RAM

Software only 

audio track ends and theres a dot sound

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Community Expert ,
Aug 31, 2021 Aug 31, 2021

Cut one or two frames before or after.

Do you have any effects applied to the audio?

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Participant ,
Aug 31, 2021 Aug 31, 2021

No effect. No matter where i cut, it is still having the dot sound.

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Contributor ,
Aug 31, 2021 Aug 31, 2021

Have you tried rendering audio previews? Does it still happen after playing with the previews rendered?

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Participant ,
Aug 31, 2021 Aug 31, 2021

I have not render previews. But export the video. It still has the sound

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Contributor ,
Aug 31, 2021 Aug 31, 2021

You know, come to think of it, I had a similar issue back when with a older version of Premiere (2020 I think). Haven't had it since.... BUT...

 

To fix it, I first deleted previews for my project, then closed Premiere, re-opened it. PRIOR TO opening the project I went to preferences and deleted the Media Cache (in full).

 

Then I opened the project and exported, and everything was fine again. Not sure if your issue is 100% related (as mine was tied to Multi-cam), but may be worth a shot to clear your media cache.

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Participant ,
Aug 31, 2021 Aug 31, 2021

Will clearing media Cache affect my project? I am currently working on a movie

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Contributor ,
Sep 01, 2021 Sep 01, 2021

New cache files would need to be created, but it won't destroy your edits or source media. Premiere makes cache files to improve the fluidity of editing a bit. They are essentially temp files.

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Sep 01, 2021 Sep 01, 2021

Understood, thank you!

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Valorous Hero ,
Aug 31, 2021 Aug 31, 2021

Without knowing more, my guess is you're hearing a click which is very common when cutting audio because you're not performing a cut on a "Zero Crossing" which is when your waveform intersects the 0db line. You can read a little more about what I'm referring to here: https://steinberg.help/wavelab_elements/v9.5/en/wavelab/topics/audio_files_editing/zero_crossing_c.h...

and here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_crossing 

 

Audition does actually have a command to adjust the time to zero crossings to make seamless edits, but Premiere doesn't. If this is, in fact, what is happening to you, then a simple 2 frame cross fade should solve the problem.

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Participant ,
Aug 31, 2021 Aug 31, 2021

Is it possible to do with no frames away? I am editing a movie song and then playing the soundtrack version just to remove other people voice as practicing. I match the song to the movie song scene

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Community Expert ,
Aug 31, 2021 Aug 31, 2021

david's solution does not involve losing any frames, just apply a 2 frame audio dissolve at each audio cut point.  You also didn't tell us the format of the source audio.  If it's synch sound from the h264 file, you might solve the problem by transcoding to a more "robust" format like quicktime prores 422 with audio that's minimally 48k 16bit (standard for most professional video).    And if it's an audio only file, transcoding to 48k 16bit aiff might also help.  

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Participant ,
Aug 31, 2021 Aug 31, 2021

Understood! Is there a way to sync the song from the movie? Also, in the movie there is a audio coming out of left mor ethan right. Might be 5.1? Sorry for alot of questions

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Community Expert ,
Aug 31, 2021 Aug 31, 2021

I'd suggest you start new posts for each of your questions...   And for the question about synching, you should describe the situation in greater detail.  Premiere does have tools for synching audio and video but only within certain limitations.  I'm in the midst of editing a music video shot to playback where in most cases the prerecorded sound was playing during the shoot and recorded by the camera mics.  In a few shots, the shot would just have the playback for the first 5 or 6 seconds and the talent would then just hear the playback thru headphones...  In both cases, premiere synched the audio without issues...

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Participant ,
Sep 02, 2021 Sep 02, 2021

Sorry to bother. Do u mean transcode as bringing the audio file to media encoder by exporting. Encoding it as Prores 422?

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Community Expert ,
Sep 02, 2021 Sep 02, 2021

yup, use media encoder to transcode files with video and audio to prores422, if audio only, transocde to 48k 16bit aiff.  Might try one file and see if it solves the issue.   Premiere has some rock solid workflows to replace the existing files quickly with the trnascoded files.   Post back if you have any questions.

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Participant ,
Sep 02, 2021 Sep 02, 2021

Understood! Thank you very much for helping me! I am going to export then put inside media encoder!

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Community Expert ,
Sep 02, 2021 Sep 02, 2021

you can just select the clips in the bin within premiere and export,  set the export settings and then queue to send to media encoder.  And you can select a bunch of the clips at the same time to send them all to media encoder and save some time.  

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Participant ,
Sep 02, 2021 Sep 02, 2021

Err. I actually didnt work. I encode to ProRes 422. Cut the clip and listen again, there is still a dot sound. I guess I should use 2 frames before end to change 0 db to -infinite db instead and the original song put on the start of 0db 2 frames behind. I wanted to put my movie based on the First Man movie song haha. I feel like i should just use the original song instead. Actually what is your method in background music? -11 dB or -20 or more

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Participant ,
Sep 02, 2021 Sep 02, 2021

Btw the song is First Man The Landing

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Community Expert ,
Sep 02, 2021 Sep 02, 2021

something may be wrong on your system.  I don't think you posted your system specs (which is always a good idea).  Do you have some sort of external audio interface?  Might be causing the issue.  Although I occasionally hear the clicks on audio edits from edits, most of the time I don't...  but that may be because I'm usually editing dialog at moments of silence.  Music edits do usually need at least a short dissolve. 

 

There are no hard and fast rules on relative audio levels, although if you're delivering for broadcast, there may be some requirements as to peak levels, etc.  I just use my judgement.  And I strongly suggest you check the relative levels on a variety of playback devices as a great stereo system may sound different from a smartphone and listening on speakers will be different than listening with headphones...  And everyone's ears are different and as you get older your audio perceptions also change.  I had a client years ago who would keep complaining that the music was too loud until it was almost imperceptible..  

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Participant ,
Sep 02, 2021 Sep 02, 2021

Understood. Actually here is an example 

https://youtu.be/g-W_hm2JyuU 

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Community Expert ,
Sep 02, 2021 Sep 02, 2021

wait, are your sources from a screen capture?  If so, the problem is probably that they have a variable frame rate...

sources with vfr can cause unpredictable and intermittant issues...  Here's how to solve the problem


use mediainfo to determine whether your source is variable or constant frame rate

https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo/Download

if it's variable use handbrake to convert to constant frame rate

https://handbrake.fr
and here's a tutorial on how to use handbrake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=34&v=xlvxgVREX-Y

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