Export Not Matching My Program Monitor Display and Lumetri Color Edits

[dadagrrr]

Camera: iPhone 15

Modified Color from 2100 to 709

When I edit and apply lumetri color settings and a built-in creative look, I get this result in my program monitor, but then in export I get this blown out look. I can't find any settings where I can keep my export looking like my program monitor.

Any help is appreciated. 

[MyerPj]

Did you try importing the exported file and viewing it in PP?

[Conrad_C]

What are you using to view the export, and on which OS?

For example:

QuickTime Player on macOS

VLC on macOS

VLC on Windows

Desktop preview, such as QuickLook in macOS

Other video player or hardware monitor

[R Neil Haugen · Accepted solution]

You've left out a lot of important information.

Go to the Color Workspace, Lumetri panel, Settings tab. ALL color management options from input through working though output are set there.

Do you have DCM ... display color management ... set to on?

Do you have autodetect log on?

What is your sequence working space?

What do you have the monitor set to?

And what export preset did you choose?

I will add, that if you're on a Mac, then ... you have a pick your poison option thing unfortunately. Most Macs use an odd display transform/gamma for Rec.709 video. Except for those Macs with "reference modes", and if so, then the HDTV option sets the correct 2.4 screen transform/gamma for Rec.709 "broadcast".

Most everyone not on a Mac will get either gamma 2.2 or 2.4 for Rec.709 media.

You can't display a file at two different output/display gamma transforms and see the same image. So ... for those on Macs without reference modes, do you worry only about other Mac users without reference modes seeing mostly what you see?

If so, no question, set the display gamma in Premiere to QuickTime 1.96. The image in Premiere will be lighter, and after you export, should be similar to say QuickTime player.

On that Mac, of course. But not on my PC with fully specced Rec.709 calibration/profile run. It will probably be pretty dark and oversaturated.

So if you're on a Mac, who you most worried about?

[dadagrrr]

Sorry for the delay in response. Thanks for those Lumetri settings. I'm mostly wanting it to look good on YouTube.

So, with footage recorded in Rec. 2100 HLG, I found the best export to work with YouTube to be your suggestions of turning Display Color Management and to the Media Color Space the same.

Attached shows the exported clip in QuickTime alongside the YouTube representation.

Any suggestions for iPhone 15 settings are welcome. Thanks for the help

[R Neil Haugen]

Are you working SDR or HDR in Premiere?

HDR is a lot of fun, but past that ... very few screens out there handle it well if at all. The ones that do typically only handle some of the several types of HDR, and even then, have limitations and design considerations to enhance the viewing experience". In other words, alter the file according to the limitations of that screen and the aesthetics of their engineers.

But then, every screen and viewing situation is different anyway.

[dadagrrr]

SDR is my goal, perhaps need to turn off HDR on the iPhones then.

[R Neil Haugen]

Probably wise. Mac geek and forum staffer Kevin Monahan does recommend turning off the HDR on iPhones, and he's of course a total iPhone ... um ... user.  😉

In Premiere, make sure that both the auto detect log and auto tonemap are active. Set the sequence to Rec.709, set your display gamma to your chosen option, make sure that the export preset doesn't have either HLG or PQ in the preset name. That should work.