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Export using plug-in encoder

Explorer ,
Aug 04, 2022 Aug 04, 2022

I want to export a project from Pre Pro 22.5 using a plug-in encoder like Voukoder or Staxrip to achieve better quality H.264 than is normal with Pre Pro. How do I do it?

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Community Expert ,
Aug 04, 2022 Aug 04, 2022

I'm pretty sure you should contact "Voukoder or Staxrip"

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Explorer ,
Aug 04, 2022 Aug 04, 2022

but how do I even see what encoder is being used in PrePro, or if it's there?

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LEGEND ,
Aug 04, 2022 Aug 04, 2022

You can't use a separate app as an encoder with PrPro. I do know a number of editors that export a Master Final in say ProRes or DNx, then go to ffmpeg, ShutterEncoder or Handbrake where they have their own presets for t-coding the master to the H.264 deliverable.

 

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Community Expert ,
Aug 05, 2022 Aug 05, 2022

Premiere uses Mainconcept.

I tried Voukoder but could not get it to work. Dont know the other one..

I have been frameseving to TMPG Encoder for years.

Might want to look at this:

TMPGEnc Movie Plug-in AVC for Premiere Pro - Export Premiere Pro projects using the TMPGEnc H.264 en...

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LEGEND ,
Aug 05, 2022 Aug 05, 2022

Oh, that's right ... and there's another plugin for encoding I've seen now that my brain's engaged!

 

I'll try to post back on that one later.

 

Neil

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LEGEND ,
Aug 05, 2022 Aug 05, 2022

Autokroma has their "AfterCodecs" which allows quite a range of things for exporting from within Premiere, including individual files from a sequence.

 

And through aescripts.com, there's some things including "Clips Exporter" ... so do check there also.

 

Neil

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Participant ,
Aug 09, 2022 Aug 09, 2022

I managed to get Handbrake going on it's own, not as a plug-in for PrPro. It works fine. What are people's opinions of Handbrake? Is it as good as any other app for converting ProRes 4.2.2HQ 8-bit to H.265?  The second question is, in Handbrake in the drop-down menu for Filters, it has Interlace Detection set to Default and Decomb also on Default. The footage I'm converting is HD 25p interlaced, so are these filters correct, or should they be set to Off?

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Participant ,
Aug 09, 2022 Aug 09, 2022

BTW I don't know why I'm now listed as timf32287620 instead of Brontosaurus?

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Community Expert ,
Aug 09, 2022 Aug 09, 2022

You say your material is HD25P interlaced. It can't be both.

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Participant ,
Aug 09, 2022 Aug 09, 2022

You say your material is HD25P interlaced. It can't be both.

 

It was filmed in HD25 interlaced, and converted in PrPRo to ProRes 422HQ

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Community Expert ,
Aug 09, 2022 Aug 09, 2022

Handbrake is not a plugin but a standalone program.

If you want to convert Prores to H.265 I would use Shutter Encoder instead.

Shutter Encoder

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Participant ,
Aug 09, 2022 Aug 09, 2022

I have downloaded Shutter Encoder and am testing it. Do you recommend Shutter Encoder because the quality is better than Handbrake, or because it has more useful features?

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LEGEND ,
Aug 09, 2022 Aug 09, 2022

From everything I've seen, ShutterEncoder and Handbrake do essentially the same things, but Handbrake's UI is rather ancient and takes some messing about with it to figure out what things do.

 

ShutterEncoder has a newer more "obvious" UI.

 

Those two and ffmpeg are all very similar in the final results. It's the UI that is different.

 

Neil

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Participant ,
Aug 09, 2022 Aug 09, 2022

Thanks. I've done lot's of tests and the results of Shutter Encoder look exactly the same from 50000 bitrate to 500, but in Handbrake it looks good all the way up to quality 36, but above that it deteriorates badly.The only thing I don't understand in Handbrake is De-interlace and Decomb. Presumably they are never used for progressive? but should they be used for interlaced?

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LEGEND ,
Aug 09, 2022 Aug 09, 2022

De-interlace is for taking interlaced media and making a progressive out of it.

 

De-comb ... I've never understood that one personally.

 

Neil

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Community Expert ,
Aug 09, 2022 Aug 09, 2022

Copy/paste

Deinterlace removes comb artifacts from the picture. Yadif is a popular and fast deinterlacer. Decomb switches between multiple interpolation algorithms for speed and quality.

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Participant ,
Aug 09, 2022 Aug 09, 2022
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Thank you both. So would you recommend using Deinterlace and Decomb for my HD 25 interlaced footage?

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