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Exporting From Premiere CC to Encore

New Here ,
Sep 12, 2017 Sep 12, 2017

Im currently completing a massive 17 disc project for a charity event shot over 9 days. I have all teh edits in place and have exported the footage as .mpg files from premiere as shown below in Prem CC Export Properties.

Prem CC Export Properties.jpg

When I play back the exported footage its pin sharp on the title text and the corner logo and the footage is very clean as per the dimensions (1920x1080). However, when I import the exported footage into Encore CS6 to master the DVD, i know the footage gets scaled down to 720x576, how ever the text is blurry, and the corner logo is not clean. My understanding is that things enlarged would get pixelated, but down grading although makes the footage smaller, the sharpness shouldnt be lost.

Below is the difference I see... (Sampling.jpg)

Sampling.jpg

Encore obviously wont allow me to change the export settings as it is at max and fixed...

Encore Settings.jpg

Where am I going wrong here? Why does my footage look so bad after its been through Encore? Hope with the above someone can spot my silly mistake somewhere..


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Hari

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Community Expert , Sep 12, 2017 Sep 12, 2017

You are encoding twice (once in Pr and once in Encore)

Best is to use the mpeg2-dvd preset i Premiere and bump the bitrate to 8.

In Encore is should say: dont transcode (that is important).

When viewing the dvd use dvd software or a standalone bd-player with upscaler on a hd tv.

For dvd the vimeo clip does not loop bad at all.

Dont compare to HD or Hollywood dvd's.

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Community Expert ,
Sep 12, 2017 Sep 12, 2017

Are you exporting from Premiere using the mpeg dvd preset? or are you exporting as HD and letting Encore make the dvd file. If Encore is transcoding for HD material you need the field order set to upper or Progressive.

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New Here ,
Sep 12, 2017 Sep 12, 2017

Hi Richard,

Thanks for the quick response... Unfortunately, below are the settings I used to export in Premiere, not sure if these are what you were referring to, if so then the output from Encore was still bad Any other ideas or have I got these all wrong?

Export Settings Prem.jpg

Outputs... from the Export and then from Encore...

Sampling2.jpg

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New Here ,
Sep 12, 2017 Sep 12, 2017

Ive added the videos here to see the difference...

Vimeo Link to Exported footage

Dropbox link to ISO that I built out of Encore that shows how bad the export in Encore is..

Dropbox - Disc8.iso

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Community Expert ,
Sep 12, 2017 Sep 12, 2017

You are encoding twice (once in Pr and once in Encore)

Best is to use the mpeg2-dvd preset i Premiere and bump the bitrate to 8.

In Encore is should say: dont transcode (that is important).

When viewing the dvd use dvd software or a standalone bd-player with upscaler on a hd tv.

For dvd the vimeo clip does not loop bad at all.

Dont compare to HD or Hollywood dvd's.

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New Here ,
Sep 12, 2017 Sep 12, 2017

Thanks Ann

The Vimeo Clip is the Export out of premiere which is pin sharp and perfect. My issue arises when I put that file into Encore and then burn out to DVD/Image file the playback is disastrously bad... see the iso in the drop box, that's an image file created from exactly the same video as the Vimeo link

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Enthusiast ,
Sep 12, 2017 Sep 12, 2017

So as the folks above are saying - you need to export from PP the correct format for a DVD so Encore does not re-encode, which is what is happening now and why it looks so bad.

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Community Expert ,
Sep 12, 2017 Sep 12, 2017

Dear HariKara,

When you scale down footage form HD to PAL you are scaling down 37,5% (trowing away 62,5% of you resolution), but because PAL wide screen has a Pixel Aspect ration of 1,4587, the result is scalled up (in de width) again by 145,87%. So if you need to use graphics and titles: make them normal to bold and big. Avoid thin lines and logo's.

If you have no control over the used graphics because they are burned into the HD content. You really don't have many alternative then to accept the toll one has to pay when putting a standard form 2009 into a container from 1986 ...

Welcome to the world of DVD and SD production...

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LEGEND ,
Sep 12, 2017 Sep 12, 2017
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You shot it in HD.  Chances are it will be viewed in HD.

Don't make DVDs.  Make Blu-rays.

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