Fit to fill / 4 point editing woes

[dmehalik]

I'm hoping there's a solution to this that I'm missing?

So, I'm used to my in/out points in my sequence overriding my outpoint for my source.    (I've been editing in Avid for years)...

So I was disturbed when I realized I got a dialogue every time my In's/Outs in my source window didn't match the duration in the timeline.

Then I found the preference in the Timeline settings that disable the "clip mismatch warning dialogue"... YAY!!!

... But then I started to learn about how fit-to-fill works in Premiere.  It would seem that if I have that dialogue disabled there's no way to access fit to fill.

SO

I thought I'd work around it by setting a "clip speed/duration" shortcut and unlinking speed/duration in the dialogue, and then manually typing in the duration in my timeline... but when I do that it changes the speed of the entire master clip!!??  Oh. NO!!!

Please oh please someone please tell me there's a way to fit to fill a clip without changing the master clip... and without that annoying dialogue box popping up every time I've got an outpoint set in the source monitor.

Thanks!

[R Neil Haugen]

Have you tried the "Set focus on timeline for overwrite/insert" ... option in Timeline preferences?

Neil

[dmehalik]

Hi, Neil,

Thanks for the reply.

Yes, and that works well in combination with un-clicking "fit clip dialogue opens for edit range mismatches"...until I want to "fit to fill" a clip.  It seems that I can't access the "fit to fill" option then while editing, unless I go back to preferences and re-select it.  I use fit to fill a lot, so that's not really an efficient/viable option for me.

With Avid, "fit to fill" dialogue was simply a keyboard command that I had set.  In Premiere, I can program the keyboard to have the clip speed/duration dialogue pop-up... but that doesn't have "Fit to fill"... and even if I used that dialogue to fit to fill manually by unlinking duration and speed and entering the duration I want it to "fill", it ends up modifying the clip itself in the project (If the speed wound up at 125%, that clip is now 125% in my project window, and if I want to use that clip again, it's already set to 125%).

I'm trying to figure out if I can get the set the "fit to fill" dialogue to pop up only when I ask it to... not every time I have mismatched ins/outs set between the timeline and the source, because I'm used to constantly having mismatched ins/outs set and the timeline overriding it.

Does that make sense?

[brian704]

I understand moving from one software to another has it's issues. Couldn't this be solved by not creating 4 points (ie in and out on both source and program) unless you wanted a fit to fill? 3 points are quite sufficient and also less time consuming - unless I'm missing something.

[dmehalik]

Yes, I think that is what I'll have to do if there is no separate command for the dialogue box.  It's just going to be a pretty big adjustment after editing this way for 18 years.  I know this sort of thing is to be expected moving from one platform to another, but I guess I'm just looking to mitigate the pain wherever possible .  Thanks for your time!