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April 25, 2019
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Getting noises in exported file

  • April 25, 2019
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I'm facing a problem exporting 4k timeline to h264 "matching source high bitrate".

I'm getting noises in some frames.

After several trials of different h264 settings i found the "match source adaptive high bitrate" to solve the problem. but it comes with a heavy penalty - the size of the file is 6 time bigger!!!

Any idea?

Thanks

Arikw

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    Averdahl
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    April 25, 2019

    You need a higher bitrate than 10 for good results for 4K. Besides the problem you uploaded, take a look at the boat and the loss of details and the amount of macro blocking. Try H.265 to use lower bitrates.

    4K=big video files.

    arikwAuthor
    Inspiring
    April 25, 2019

    Both files are 4k!!!

    The first one - "h 264 match source high br" - comes out smaller than an mpeg 1920*1080!

    Uptill now with very good results! no noise! (anything to do with the new version?)

    Following your advice I was trying to lower the BR but less than 63.3 BR (which is the adaptive setting)  50 BR the noise remain!

    I was trying also facebook, vimeo, youtube 4k ultra hd settings and h 264 high quality 4k but the noise is still there.

    Any other idea?

    arikwAuthor
    Inspiring
    April 27, 2019

    That clip is indeed tricky to encode, lots of waves in the water, moving camera, lot´s of sun reflections in the water. With the clip i get the very same results as you when using "Match Source - High Bitrate". The only way to get rid of it is to use a higher bitrate if you need/want H.264.

    4K is four times larger than 1920x1080 so it requires a higher bitrate. When i do Blu-ray´s i often encode using CBR and 30 Mbps for 1920x1080. If i use 30 Mbps x 4, iow 120 Mbps for this clip it comes out great but i do realize that the file size is big.

    I did a test and exported the clip as GoPro CineForm and uploaded that to YouTube and the 4K version looked good.

    Use H.265 instead of H.264. You can use a lower bitrate and has many more options and still get the .mp4 container. But H.265 at 10 Mpbs will look bad as well, so higher bitrate is needed for 4K.


    I'm defiantly going to look into the options you mentioned.

    Did you try the Pegasys plugin you advised me about? (which the trial version doesn't work for me)

    Thanks again for all your efforts.

    yenaphe
    Inspiring
    April 25, 2019

    Hi, could you post screenshots of the original frame and the exported frames, and also the detailed settings ?

    It's very difficult to "see" the issue as we all have our own perception of "noise" (if that makes sense).

    arikwAuthor
    Inspiring
    April 25, 2019

    the original 4k from timeline

    the exported h264 match source high bitrate

    the h264 setting

    never happened to me before!!!

    arikwAuthor
    Inspiring
    April 25, 2019

    In addition to the stills I uploaded to you tube two short clips.

    Usually i'm using the "h264 match source high br" with no problem.

    In this case I had to use the "adaptive high br" to avoid the noise.

    the size of the second file is 6 times bigger than the first.

    exported h264 match source high br - YouTube

    exported h264 match source adaptive high br - YouTube